On another note , Mike the KR concept is exactly what you want for the reel type and line size and type you're using , the guys here will get you setup correctly . Enjoy the rod .
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"A bazillion rods were built without knowing the reel specs'. And not a one will come anywhere close to being as good as a build that takes the reel specs and line type/characteristics into account. Now if NOT building for a specific reel and line type it's a different story . Understanding how critical the reel and line type is to building the most efficient spinning setup IS NOT
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Mike , even though the below is not a KR system it is a similar NGC system and will give you an idea about guide sizes and general placement . THE BELOW IS A GREAT EXAMPLE OF THE KR CONCEPT AND HOW IT VARIES FROM THE NGC .
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The reel size and specs and line type and pound test will determine the guide types and sizes . Without knowing the specific reel along with the line type and pound test you plan on using it's impossible to recommend anything , just mentioning that it's a spinning reel setup doesn't help at all . Will this be a rod that will be fished from the shoreline or a boat etc...
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I left a message in the other thread , didn't even see there was two of them , seems Robert offered good advice . If you don't have rod sleeves , i make my own out of flannel and each has two sections sewn together, one for the butt and one for the top half of the rod . If you have sleeves on the rods then you can just slide a bunch of them into a hard PVC tube if a crushing impact is a possib
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If you don't have cloth sacks or sleeves for each rod, ( All rods worthwhile should have one) then roll out a large blanket or flannel sheets and lay it out fully so all four corners are exposed , now pick either side and roll the blanket/sheets over each individual rod until it's covered fully and repeat with the next rod laying it right next to the first covered up one and continue . This wil
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Phil Ewanicki Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > I had not thought of that. Different anglers grip > the rod handle at different distances from the > butt with different types of reels mounted at > different heights, using different lines and > weights, making each rod build a unique creation. > No-one should recommend any guide choices or gu
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Tom Kirkman Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > You know, the line path will tell you what sizes > you need and where they need to be located. > > ................ Line path is how i determine the proper height of guides but not ring sizes , the spinning reel specs and line characteristics is how i determine the best possible ring sizes becau
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For a 5000-6000 size Shimano spinner and braid 30 - 40 pounds or under a size 30 ring is indeed grossly over sized , i have a 10,000 size Shimano spinner with a 76 mm spool diameter on my 11 foot surf rods and it performs incredible with a size 20 mm ring with a 25 size ring being the largest i would ever consider . I have tried a KW 30 on it but it did nothing but add weight and allow the line
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I'm very familiar with the Penn LC models , i was contacted by Mike Rice of Penn to see if i was interested in field testing the first 7500 LC long cast , great casting reel but the weight of it was a killer . You have many choices even a KR type setup although 40 pound braid is on the heavy side for that and i'm sure you don't want to pay for an RV 25 which would be the perfect guide to start y
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OK , so this is a future project , line choice appears to be mono since even smaller reels will hold hundred's of yards of suitable braid . You will need to reconsider your reel choice i'm sorry to say because unless you have superhuman strength you will not be able to cast " Lead all day" as you worded it with a spinner that weighs in at 31 ounces . Most even consider reels in the 2
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You got to get organized Ken you're all over the place , things like what grips and that you now want a Lami blank instead of your MHX and whether you like the cork tape or perhaps carbon fiber grips , what inner diameter carbon tubes will fit are things that come AFTER knowing with certainty of the reel and line choices . What will you be targeting by the way , what payloads are you planning
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Ken, as Mark said without knowing the specific reel you plan to use with the line type and strength you plan to use it's impossible to give specific recommendations , if you haven't figured that out yet chime in to let us know when you do . DON'T start building it until you settle on the reel and the line type and strength because that determines how to go forward. The MHX surf blanks in th
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I have been exceptionally pleased with RodGeeks as well , if Batson ever makes an immortal that's 8 feet in length and can handle 1-3 oz i would jump on it but no dice at this point . Speaking of the Immortals , under Popping blanks if you click on features etc ... it says Immortals come in fast and X tra fast actions but none do , they only offer moderate fast sp it must be a misprint . I wo
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What reel model and what line ?
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Ken Brown 2 Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > I guess im on the opposite side. I tend to like > prokote more. I like the idea of letting my rod > spin for several hours, at least 12, to get the > right cure of the epoxy. I don't like the idea of > a fast curing time just in case it might start > curing while im applying the epoxy to the r
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Barry Weaver Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > Herb > Contact CTS they will make just about anything you > want, They made me a 5pc. 11' surf rod. Yeah thanks Barry i already ordered a few from Herb L that fit everything i like but unfortunately the overall weight of the blanks were considerably heavier than what i was used to , my mistake in not
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None of the corrosion control frames offer that sheen that regular Fuji stainless offers, the CC frames are indeed just Fuji's standard stainless with the CC treatment applied to them but that CC treatment takes that classy sheen away that i personally find attractive . As said i have never had a stainless frame corrode but others have so obviously the CC frames would appeal to them . You
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Not sure but i'll pay handsomely for you to come up with a 10'6" -11 ' surf blank FAST ACTION that weighs in the 6 to 7 ounce range . Can't find anybody that offers that these days . Good luck in your quest.
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Threadmaster regular for me also and the fast cure time is a major reason why , Threadmaster lite to me takes a lot longer to cure . I tend to stick with what i'm familiar with and what has worked well for me in the past as i don't like surprises. I believe everybody eventually finds what works for them , there is no " Be all end all " that works perfectly for everybody.
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"Between the two which is better? Are they each better in different ways? Why should I use Fazlite over Alconite" Alconite is better Fazlite is cheaper and comes in a blue ceramic color, if that appeals to you then that would be considered "Better" in your particular case. If you want to keep the cost as low as possible and like the color blue than you should choo
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Bob Ginther Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > Herb, correct that is the idea, if I actually do > it. Still researching, and will practice on the > other blanks. I plan to run CCS tests on the > stock blanks, and static loads tests also, to > compare with the same tests on the finished multi > piece blanks. I may end up with nothing other
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I'm pretty positive that those surf blanks were in stock that's why you're getting them so fast , sounds like your experimental build will be taking another two piece blank and making it into a 5 piece . I know you love to do that but you should take some CCS measurements on it before cutting it into pieces that would help show differences from stock to what you end up with making it a 4 or 5 p
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If you will be using two hands to cast the grips should be located exactly where your sons hands naturally fall when he goes through the motions , when i hear of blanks over 10 feet i assume two handed casting .
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Phil Ewanicki Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > Herb: True. I guess what bothers me is the bozos, > no matter what kind line of line, reel, or rod > they are using, play fish to death to satisfy some > gruesome urge they have and then "release" the > fish and brag about it. Anybody who purposely chooses to use gear that they know
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Phil Ewanicki Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > The main drawback to catching big fish on light > lines is the long fight kills the fish. If you're talking about mono i agree but it's a totally different situation with light braid . Today's light braids including fused super lines will land fish over 30 pounds WITHOUT having to play them out , haven'
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Bob Ginther Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > Looks like the 1167-2 is 10.76 oz 60/40 split > from what I saw on a different forum. But I don't > know how old that info is. Hard to believe , 1167 -2 is rated 2-8 oz the 1165-2 piece 1- 3 oz both blanks being the same length is listed as weighing a total of 9.8 oz . Can't see the 2- 8 oz rated bla
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Bob Ginther Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > Yes, I would like to know the blank weight of the > SUR 1167-2 (psi-lmx) Also, is this a 50/50 split > or something else. And does anyone have any info > on what is the sweet spot for casting with this > blank? Thanks.l The 1-3 ounce NFC surf blank is 9.8 ounces which is considerably heavier
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"Who cares how far you can cast. If you can cast to fish, it's enough" I routinely have to cast 130 + yards on certain beaches with metals to reach fast running fish that stay from 100 yards out to 300 yards out so casting distance is everything , Not all fish are in close , at night many species come in really really close but rarely during daytime hours.
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I have been attempting to get the blank weights for your 3 surf rod models and only one shows the overall blank weight the other two do not list the blank weights , i don't know if it was overlooked because i see blank weights are listed for all the other blanks NFC offers . Hopefully that can be corrected . Thank you Aleks
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