I understand that but you will find the performance between both are very very similar , mostly being due to their ancient locomotive oscillation system and how they wrap braid . Build a rod cast both and see for yourself , both will perform very similarly with no noticeable performance advantage between the two .
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I have a new 704 Z as well and no issues of it rolling with 10 pound braid . Anyways enjoy yourself .
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Brett DeNicola Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > Thanks Herb i was thinking ncg wouldnt work > because choke would be too far out by 27x it puts > the choke right at tip then i thought cof but > unsure of how quick i can reduce size and wanted > to try and keep the tip light. At first i assumed > kr wouldnt work because of spool diameter but
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If you go with the KR concept go with a KL25H , KL12H to a KL 7M or KL6M that should work well enough with that size spool diameter and that line choice . I usually use a 5.5 M as the third guide but i think with your line choice the KL7M or KL6M is a better choice . I'm assuming you don't care to spend the $$$ on the double foot RV guides so your only choice is single foots . When your line of
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It would work but far from optimally , if you went down to 10 pound Fireline it would work better. I fished a 704Z with 10 pound Fireline for a while with an LC 20 and it worked but with that size reel and spool diameter i would set it up NGC myself .
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roger wilson Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > Herb, > Fuji is right about more guides keeping a line off > the blank - under all conditions. > > i.e. if one wants to keep the line off a rod when > the blank is fully loaded and if the line is on > top of the rod, one will need more guides to keep > the line off of the blank. &g
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Tom Kirkman Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > No, they use very few guides. Weight remains the > enemy and this is true with tournament casters > whether they are casting surf type rods or fly > rods. > > Try it for yourself - remove a third of the guides > on any rod you have, re-space them and go cast it. > You won't want to fish
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"A distance caster typically isn't going to use very many guides - they do not intend to fight fish. They just cast for distance" I would think that casting distance is in part getting all the power out of the blank as possible and added guides in the right locations would achieve that . FUJI says the below : "Guide rings are far more slippery than rod blanks. Th
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Instead of focusing on the widely different patterns and appearances between blanks i would focus on how does the performance compare , i think you will find as most do that it doesn't matter how crazy things look, in the end the fact remains that the best offerings by today's manufacturers will be very similar in performance. If there was some blank out there that was head and shoulders abov
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I looked at the "SeaGuide" website and was very pleased to see 316 steel being used for the frames , Alps advertises 316 on many of their guides also . I have not found any mention of 316 for Fuji however , they should list that because imo Fuji's standard metal frames have a heavier feel to them which is why i usually go with titanium. Seaguide offers titanium frames which are pri
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Looks like the below model fits XQHG
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I like that idea better actually , didn't think of measuring them after being built . Before and after would be interesting .
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Phil Ewanicki Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- "I only ask for useful information also about how the blank performs in reality" The only accurate measurement that CANNOT be debated is how one blank compares to the next employing the CCS measurements , how that translates to a blanks performance in reality beyond those measurements will be determ
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Brett DeNicola Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > Is it a problem to do 30 20 16 10 8 runners if the > tip is a 10 or 12? Should not matter right? No it's not a problem , to me size 8 guides are the largest i would use for runners and they sound like they would fit right in with the rod you're building , guide recommendations are just that, recommendati
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A 704 stacked with mono huh ,well in that case you can rule out a KR concept build and go with a NGC type build starting with something like a size 30 on down , the Pacific Bay XSG guides come in sizes that will work and Fuji's K guides offer sizes that will also work and you can get them in corrosion control frames . Forget the Recoil guides they don't come in the sizes you need anyway . I ha
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I don't believe people don't want to see them do well , just the opposite actually . The complaints have been valid , they haven't been unreasonable at all . I think most everybody wants a top flight manufacturer that builds it's blanks in the USA to succeed .
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What reel and line choice will you be using and what type of fish will you be targeting ?
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It's just all the different manufacturers marketing jargon to attract customers , there are no blanks that are vastly superior to all others in tech and performance if somebody says there is it's nonsense. When you hear the word "Nano" that relates to the latest resins that are being used and ALL top blank manufacturers have been using nano silica and other nano formulations with moder
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This has been discussed more times than i care to admit but here's the bottom line. If you order from NFC expect to wait a LONG LONG time, there are people STILL waiting after ordering in July and August and then you have some who have lucked out and only waited a few weeks but those are extremely rare .
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Sharks and stingrays are the two species i HATE catching and i release immediately if i do hook into one . Remember Phil , i said no knots, no wire and no heavy mono INSIDE the tip top , you can use any size wire , mono or knot types OUTSIDE the tip top . I release everything i catch immediately regardless of what it is , some anglers don't like that as they say if you don't want it i'll gladly
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People would be surprised just how well small light guides work for all types of fish species , i haven't run any leader/knot combinations past my tip top in decades because i find it totally unnecessary . I have caught many toothy predators including smaller king and Spanish mackerel and many blues of all sizes from the beachfront over the years without running a leader of any kind through the
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I should make a point in my previous post that i forgot to make regarding the "Two line " method . There is a good chance that the reason i didn't see a change in the flex of the blank when attaching a line just to the tip top and flexing it could be because i have only built a handful of surf rods and they all had the same type of flex characteristic's . I'm sure if i built as many
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Agreed Ben but it's not as simple as that sounds , sure more guides will make it easier to follow the blanks natural flex characteristics but i don't want to use any more than absolutely necessary . I see many rods built that use far fewer guides than what i would prefer but the owners seem happy and they still handle most fish . If i'm building a rod i believe in utilizing all the power that th
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As Ben said the number of guides is critical for coming close to matching the blanks natural bend , i chose the smallest titanium running guides i could get away with on my surf rods , none of those giant size 8 or 10's .
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"Herb I get trying new things. But some things are so simple and effective, they can't be improved upon. I feel the 2 line static load method of guide placement is one of them. It's easy as pie" I use to say the same thing about certain things , ( It cannot be improved upon) and all i heard was (EVERYTHING can be improved on ) and it's wrong to say (Do not experiment) but i'm sta
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I happen to believe Phil Ewanicki is doing great work and i believe he will come up with something even more efficient . Remember folks you must experiment , there is no (be all end all ) in rod building , i used to think that way but so many convinced me to never ever accept where things are , you must keep innovating . I look forward to Phil's inquisitive mind and his constant pushing fo
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Phil Ewanicki Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > If suspending a weight from the tip-top does not > reveal the natural curve of the blank under load > what in blazes DOES reveal the natural curve of > the blank? I think attaching the tip top temporarily like you said and just having a line attached to the tip top and then a weight on the groun
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Roger doesn't like the idea of turning off the heaters after you get done with the application lol , hey if you can stand to keep the heaters on for the entire drying cycle by all means enjoy but i have never had an issue with turning the space heaters off after i get the finish looking the way i want it to . Finish turns out beautiful . The room stays in the high 68 F range at the coldest a
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I live in a basement and found out the hard way about what temperature a room should be before applying rod finish . These days i won't even bother unless the temp is 70 F or higher , i have a few temp gauges sitting around so i use space heaters to get the room temp up to at least 73 degrees and no issues but if it's 70 F or below i don't even bother because it never goes well . I use regula
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Phil Ewanicki Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > For "perfect" guide placement cement the grip and > reelseat to the blank, attach a reel with line to > the blank, and clamp the rod securely at a 45 > degree upward angle. Put on a tip-top. Use tape to > secure it. Run your line from the reel through the > tip-top and tie enough weig
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