Where can this be purchased ?

[www.homedepot.com]

Most hardware stores will have it.

Thanks need all help I can get .

Just some general info regarding glues and epoxy that I have come across.

The labels on many products are sometimes misleading. Glues and epoxies are no exception.
Some of the levels of the effects of water are: moisture resistant, water resistant, waterproof.

Titebond III is a wood glue that is moisture resistant.
See the specifications listed on the following link.
[www.homedepot.com]

Previously I was checking on epoxies and found the following:

Gorilla Epoxy, 5-MINUTE SET
[www.gorillatough.com]
SUPERIOR WATER RESISTANT – withstands moderate exposure to water

Loctite® Epoxy Instant Mix™ 5 Minute
[www.loctiteproducts.com]
Not Recommended For Continuously wet areas or water immersion

Devcon 5-Minute Epoxy 9 oz
[www.hobbylinc.com]

Features
•Forms a clear hard rigid bond self leveling liquid in minutes.
•5 minute working time.
•15 minute setting time.
•1 hour functional cure time.
•Water resistant.


I have not had any problems with Flex Coat epoxy glue. However, when my current supply is exhausted, I will give Systems 3 T-88 a try. Both Systems 3 and West Systems have marine grade epoxy.

Don Becker

Thanks Don I really appreciate the info and will take it all into consideration .

Don, if you want a good all purpose paste type for a lower price try Fasco 110. Over the years it has gone by a variety of names. It is a proven product.

Russ in Hollywood, FL.

Hi Russ,

Thank you for the info. I will check it out.

Don

Don Becker

It used to be called Resco....then Kardol....if those names mean anything to you. We used Resco a lot for teak/general marine/boat stuff back in the day. I have never used their rod thread coatings though.

Russ in Hollywood, FL.

I have never looked but What about Rod Bond ??

I used it once on a coffee pot that had a crack in it

used it for several years and it never leaked ????!!!!

Bill - willierods.com



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Don, Thanks for posting the information. I have been pondering it for the last few days, and now have a question: how "water resistant" does our epoxy have to be? I typically build rods for fresh water fishing (mostly bass). Admittedly, sometimes a rod gets dunked and water does splash about in my canoe from time to time. Nonetheless, it seems all the epoxies you listed should be able to withstand that level of water contact. I think this is especially true when you consider that much of the epoxy that binds a handle/grip/real seat to a blank never comes in contact with water even when the rod is immersed. Or, am I missing something? Thanks.
Slainte,
Hunter

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Hi Hunter.

I’ll try to answer your questions in a general manner.

When we build a product, all the bits must work together without fail. Let’s consider a major importer who imports rods and tries to provide a viable product at a reasonable price. Specifications will be provided and some general trade practices will be expected to be followed. The manufacturer, in an attempt to minimize costs may use methods not normally considered.

A local shop has reported that several rods came in with loose reel seats. The problem was traced down to the use of cardboard as a substrate between the blank and the reel seat. Had the manufacturer used either a better filler or a water proof/marine grade epoxy, the problems may have been avoided.

In another thread, Tom addresses using thread to fill the space and provide centering between the blank and the reel seat. The thread is then saturated with liquid epoxy and holds the epoxy to provide appropriate bonding of the blank and reel seat. Some people use yarn instead of thread. Although this may be an old school approach, it is effective and reliable.

I stay away from fast setting epoxy as well as masking tape when building rods. As mentioned, Flex Coat has been reliable for me. Another product to consider is System 3, T-88 epoxy glue. It is a marine grade construction epoxy.

OBTW,
95% of my fishing is in the surf. After every outing, my rods and reels are thoroughly washed. About once a year I try to wax the rods that I expect to use. My fishing environment may be a little tougher on equipment than a fresh water environment.

Hope this helps,
Don

Don Becker