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How to decide?
Posted by:
Brad Young
(---.cha.bellsouth.net)
Date: October 22, 2009 08:41AM
Is there any information in print that I can pick up that will tell why you would use a certain blank for certain application? I have seen in suppliers catalogues where they have alot of different blanks for the same type of fishing. How do you determine for instance if you are going to be worm fishing which blank to get? Med heavy or med with a fast tip or moderate tip. I say this because I am not a big bass fisherman and in need of help. Re: How to decide?
Posted by:
Tom Kirkman
(Moderator)
Date: October 22, 2009 09:14AM
Unless you have the personal experience to allow you to know what to look for in terms of action and power, your best bet is to rely upon the knowledge of those who are experienced in that specific type of fishing. Asking here is one good course of action.
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Posted by:
Steve Bro
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Date: October 22, 2009 09:18AM
IMO, It has a lot to do with personal preference. I am a bass fisherman, and I like a fast tip for worm fishing. The fast tip allows you to pop out of weed hang ups with the flick of a wrist. The fast tip also allows you more sensitivity on pick ups, but then has the back bone on a hard hook set.
For jig fishing I prefer a slower tip stouter rod, personally I can flip with higher accuracy with a slower tip. The fast tip with heavier baits tends to load up when flipping and I have a harder time hitting my spots with any sort of accuracy. Again this is all my personal preference and I’m sure that others will chime in with their opinions. Hope this helped in some way or form. Steve Bro (BroCo Custom Rods) Re: How to decide?
Posted by:
Michael Sledden
(---.176.42.254.ptr.us.xo.net)
Date: October 22, 2009 10:58AM
Most bass fisherman have their own idea what is right in a rod for each application. There is no right or wrong blank for an application, well to a point, I am sure you would not want to use an ultrlight for flipping heavy weeds. Like Tom said, your best bet would be to ask here and there are enough guys to give their opinions on a rod for whatever application it is going to be used for. Re: How to decide?
Posted by:
Gabe Neal
(---.dot.gov)
Date: October 22, 2009 02:51PM
I agree with Steve. I exclusively fish for bass and pride myself as a good worm fisherman, when it’s not lightning. I use a med-heavy fast tip rod. You need something that you can feel that bass pick up the worm but not something so heavy the bass feels the rod first. I guess my opinion is based on the size weight and worm I use most. I have always liked the G Loomis MB783, but since they don’t like us anymore I look forward to trying others maybe St Croix 3c66mh or the new MHX rods.
For a 1/8 to ¼ weight with up to a 6†worm I use a 783, (6-6 in 3 power). If I was going to use a ¼ - ½ oz weight with a worm up to 12†I would go up a step to a 784. If the guy is using the finesse approach, go down to a 782. If he is over 6’ tall you may want to step into a 7’ rod (842 – 844). If you run into some of the central Louisiana/Texas boys, they will often request a heavy rod (784 or 844) to punch through the grass mats and have the power to pull a bass out of the grass. Re: How to decide?
Posted by:
Robert Russell
(---.cable.mindspring.com)
Date: October 22, 2009 03:08PM
Bass Fishermen are a tuff crowd. As Mike and Steve point out, rod choice is usually a matter of personal preference and nearly all bass fishermen have very strong preferences. There are some basic rules you can use like the faster the bait moves, the slower the action and the heavier the bait, the longer and more powerful rod, but those are just general guide lines. Below are some specific techniques with some recommended rods/ blanks. You'll notice I don't put any lengths for the rods. In general, rods/ blanks are getting longer, but it is very much a matter of personal preference. I really don't fish anything under 7', but there are probably quite a few people that don't fish anything over 7'.
medium fast for weightless plastic, buzzbaits and spinnerbaits medium heavy fast for Texas rigs, smaller jigs and bigger spinnerbaits heavy fast for larger Texas rigs, jigs and Carolina rigs heavy moderate for flipping, pitching, frogs, slop and swimbaits medium moderate for treble hook baits medium heavy moderate for larger treble hook baits and small swimbaits medium light extra fast for finesse fishing, shakey heads, drop shots, split shot rigs... This list is a starting point for you, but is not meant to be the final answer or all inclusive. In fact, I'm sure a few people will even disagree with what I've listed. Re: How to decide?
Posted by:
Bryan Thompson
(---.hsd1.il.comcast.net)
Date: October 22, 2009 03:44PM
Another bit of what could be worthless advice is try to get info from your peers in your region of the country. Up north like Mich/Wis a 6'6" MHF is a decent t-rig set-up. In Texas a 7'3" HF or flipping HMF is what most folks are looking for as you can see that is a huge difference for what really is the same application. Different size fish and different mentality though. Re: How to decide?
Posted by:
William (Bill) Jones
(---.c004.g4.mrt.starband.net)
Date: October 22, 2009 03:57PM
And if all those efforts don't produce, then reach for the light spinning rig & go for finesse fishing. Basicly whatever it takes to "catch" one. Re: How to decide?
Posted by:
Ken Preston
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Date: October 22, 2009 04:05PM
I'd keep it simple - ask the customer a few questions 1/ what overall length (s)he prefers 2/ what weight terminal tackle (line rating is less pertinent) 3/ length of rear grip - important for those who do a lot of double handed casting etc. Re: How to decide?
Posted by:
Steve Bro
(---.mpls.qwest.net)
Date: October 22, 2009 06:01PM
I have also found in my buisiness dealings that alot of the people I am building rods for are looking for a rod that can serve many pruposes. Yeah avid bass fisherman are like golfers, you would not go to the golf coarse with 1 club would you.
I think the level of the fishermans ability and the amount that they fish plays a big role in what they are looking for in a rod. I tend to ask people how many rods they currently own and how often they get out fishing. I have heard also on here that many of the builders ask the client if they have a favorite rod, and if so bring it with them when they visit, and have them point out what features of the rod make it their favorite. I don't know if any of this helps at all. Steve Bro (BroCo Custom Rods) Re: How to decide?
Posted by:
Steven Garvey
(---.hsd1.ma.comcast.net)
Date: October 22, 2009 06:15PM
Brad go to the search feature above and search on (for example) spinnerbait blanks or crankbait blanks.
You'll get a lot of recommendations and you'll also see trends in characteristics i.e. "power" and "actions" like Robert shows above. As everyone here has said provide some requirements, specific use, lurs, line sizes, etc. and you'll get some great info. you can also go to a rod manufactures site and look at their selection. Many now offer bass technique specific rods/blanks.. (i.e. St. Croix "Mojo" bass rods.) Re: How to decide?
Posted by:
Steven Garvey
(---.hsd1.ma.comcast.net)
Date: October 24, 2009 10:00PM
Brad there are two examples of what I said on the board now "blank for Shakey head" and "Small-Medium Crankbait blank"
where guys give recommendations on the rod blanks. I monitor the board quite a bit and maintain a list of these recopmmendations. So when someone asks me to build a rod I've got some good input of where to start So as I said if you wanted to get input on saySpinnerbait blanks type that into the search feature I don't know what rod blanks you like best but you'll see a lot of reco's for St. Croix, Batson, Castaway, Lamiglas and now Mudhole MHx. If you'd like I could send you my list, I'm at [email protected]'. Sorry, only registered users may post in this forum.
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