Bill, THANKS for being generous in sharing. . Personally, I LOVE the look of the wrapless guides. However, I'm wondering if it is really lighter than how I normally like to wrap my guides. I use Pearsall silk and then put two coats of permagloss, just enough to cover the silk. I can still feel the ridges of the wrap - thus trusting that the wrap gives sufficient strength to hold the guid
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Possibly looking to build some light salt water rated to 30 lb test line. Would fuji TATSG work for this? Final few would be size 6 TLSG. I believe the TLVSGs would do that no problem. What is the max that you guys have built with the TATSG? Thanks, Mo
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Here's my little bit of contribution to the forum. REC RECOIL® Guide/Tops Specifications Note that the spacing of the chart below is off. Basically, there are 7 columns corresponding to the data below. The column description is longer and right below this. The data is after that in 7 columns. I'm not sure if the data below is available on REC's site. If they are, someone should
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If 5' 10" is fine, Lamiglas LSJ 700. 5' 10". Just a hair over 0.5 ounces. That is an incredibly lightweight blank for the length and power. A true UL and should cast UL jigs a long distance. Caveat is that I've not built on one since I don't own the blank, but had one to evaluate. Would have loved to keep it. Use the lightest guides you can find which I think would be the Recoil
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I believe that the SICS are actually HARDER than the Cermets. Cermets dispel heat better though. As to weight, if you want lightweight, the Fuji TATSG SICs are almost as light as the Rec Recoil RSPG! Not sure if the Cermets are actually lighter. Based on what I know, even if they cost the same, I'd still pick the SIC over the Cermet. I've talked to Fuji and the Cermets have grooved be
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Yes, I believe it is worth it, especially given the length. If you budget covers it and you want Fuji, go with TATSG which are even lighter but more expensive than the TLVSG. TATSG are close to the Rec Recoil RSPG. Some are same, some are a touch heavier. All lighter than the TLVSG. The advantage of the titanium is not just weight but also corrosion resistance if you are into salt wate
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Danny Ross, The good news for you is that in the larger sizes (size 10 and up but I did not measure size 8), the Fuji TATSG are virtually the same weight as the REC RSPG spin guides! This fact has not been reported widely but is worthwhile to know. They avg about 5% of each other, but the TATSG's are taller so it evens out. If you have the budget for TATSGs, they are winners. The one adva
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Mick, Great suggestion. Shoulda thunk it.....:) THANKS! That's why I post questions on this board. Obvious practical experimental solution. Of course, I'll need a couple of blanks much stouter than I have to use large guides like that. Cliff - GOODNESS. That's GREAT! I'll look through the formulas in more detail later today. About to zip out. Anyways, if friction is such a small com
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Mick, Great suggestion. Shoulda thunk it.....:) THANKS! That's why I post questions on this board. Obviously pratical experimental solution. Of course, I'll need a couple of blanks much stouter than I have to use large guides like that. Cliff - GOODNESS. That's GREAT! I'll look through the formulas in more detail later today. About to zip out. Anyways, if friction is such a small co
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Yes. Some kind of nickel titanium if I remember correctly. It has memory. Basically, they have the patent that started only about 2-3 years ago and no one else can make that product, plus no doubt the material cost more than regular titanium. I believe that they are charging for what the market will bear based on the performance, uniqueness, and what the competitors are charging for titaniu
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Cliff.. Thanks for the initial response which gave me a good chuckle. I think any modicum of credibility (if any) that I have on this board has just evaporated with this post....:) However, I actually do have a real life reason for asking the question and this is not thus academic. There are guides that my question approximates. However, I asked the question in an 'ideal' scenario as
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Thanks for all who responded. Just to clarify, we're assuming that the guides have ZERO MASS/WEIGHT and and ZERO AIR FRICTIOIN. Thus, NO ENERGY is spent propelling them to on a rod when casting. The only loading comes form the lure cast. A size 30 and a size 3.5 would move through the air with the same alacrity. Thanks. Mo
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OK, up to this point I've been only asking sensible questions. Hope you don't mind humoring me with a question from the left field.... Assuming a theoretical situation for a spin rod: 1. That all guides have ZERO mass/weight and zero drag through the air. Thus, you are free to use guides from size 3.5 to 30. 2. That guide friction coefficient stays normal. 3. That you are using lig
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TATSG - These are the LIGHTEST Fuji guides available per my measurements for a given ring size. They are fantastic if costly. Just for context, the REC Recoils RSPGs are touted as the lightest spin guides available. What most do not realize is that in some sizes, these are as light as the Recoil RSPGs so I do not see Recoils as a compelling choice if weight was the primary considerations.
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For whoever is curious. I did all of the tests suggested and concluded that it is unbranded Fuji SIC rings. These are identical to the Fuji LVSGs that I have. Obviously a pleasant surprice. Thanks for your help. Mo
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Nick, If you want a UL rod, my thought is that 5 weight is probably a bit too stout for UL. 3 or 4 weight is probably better. I never built with but did play around with their IM7 fly blank. Their 9 feet, 8 weight really impressed me coming in a only 1.7 ounces and $35. However, I'm not sure if they are that durable. For the power they are sure light. However, this light power to we
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I'm currently doing a 11 piece 9 ft rod. (don't laugh - nice action, remarkably crisp for the sections) A couple possible approaches: 1. Go with a longer grip and build the reel seat on the 2nd section counting from the butt. This means that your grip spans two sections. However, as your ferrule wears in, you may have to cut a bit of the grip (i.e. cork) so that the ferrules attaches fir
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I'd say match the reel to the DIAMETER and MEMORY of your line - along with a drag good enough for the type of fish you are going after. 8 lb mono is very different from 8lb braided. With 4-8lb braided, you can get away with very small reels as long as the drag is good enough. We pack 150 yards of 4 lb braided into a size 500 reel (we're talking the smallest spin reels made) for example.
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Chris Karp, Ah....10# and would that be mono? We use 4lb and 6lb braided line (i.e. Fireline or Sufix Performance pro) which actually measures out to about 1-2 lb mono diameter for the UL spincast. I think the real key is the UL braided for long casts using the spincast rigs. We use these for kids visiting and neophytes. Mo
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Cameron, Note that I'm not as experience as Tom or others who post here. However, my thought is that the diameter of your spin spool, and the kind of line you use may also make a difference as to how far our intersect guide need to be. For example, we've built UL for size 500 spin reels and load it up with 150 yards of UL braided lines. The spin reel has very small diameter and the line h
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Wow, one post - 9 replies and it's not even been a day. Really appreciate it. I'll do a 'destructive' test tonight. Cliff - I've used lots of Fuji SICs so I know what they look like and this one looks darn similar - with the super glossy dark grey color. Very nice guide. Definitely does not look like the oxides I've known which is why I asked. Thanks, Mo
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Sorry for this rather basic query. I thought I knew my guides but apparently not enough. Recently began stripping some unbranded guides off some Shimano rods to rebuild the blanks. These guides have a dark gray, super smooth and glossy finish - virtually identical to the Fuji SICs that I use. An inquiry overseas however had a supposed Shimano rep say that they are Oxides. i've seen
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Thanks to all. A bit daunting (since i never bothered with old rod/repairs before) and appreciate the info. Very helpful. Gratefully, Mo
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Quick but very specific query. Picked up a few Shimano manufactured rod just to strip it completely for the blank to be rebuilt. (These blanks are simply not available in the USA or anywhere I know of.) Anyone have any hunch or actual experience as to: 1. What shimano uses to attach the tip? (I'm planning to try boiling water) 2. What shimano uses to attach the reel seat and grip?
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Personally, I am EXTREMELY impressed by their XMG50 spin blanks. Weight for power, I've not seen their equal in their larger diameber spin blanks although I've not compared them against the GLX. This makes the XMG50 extremely high performance for the $. However, the challenge with Lamiglas is that I sometimes find it quite difficult to reach the appropriate people when issues arises. Th
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Thanks! Yes, have worked with Pearsall Naples and found it not much different to work with than A nylon thread. My question on guides have been answered - thanks to all. However, still wondering if Gossamer provides sufficient strength to reinforce ferrules for larger blanks....:) Since we talking about relatively expensive blanks, would be an expensive way to find out after having bui
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Thanks to all who responded. Cliff, a quick interaction with your extended reply. (Much appreciated by the way.) I asked about strength because I'd be wrapping some telescopic blanks with ferrules ranging from tiny to a jumbo 0.6" diameter. This blank has a soft enough tip for most of our freshwater needs, and yet a very powerful butt section which one can occasionally use for pie
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For heavier salt water rods, the recommendation is go up beyond A sized threads to wrap the guides and ferrules. Presumably this is for strength. This got me wondering. How heavy a rod is Pearsall Gossamer suitable for? (both guides and ferrules) How about Pearsall Naples? Curious - and I'm sure this illustrous board would know....:) Thanks, Mo
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Another vote for palomar. Tested some braided line for breaking strength. Never broke at the knot, always someplace on the line. Yes, also easiest good knot to tie. Mo
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Well.....I guess I won't be heating any guides anytime soon. LOL. I'd still like to know how to put a permanent bend in them if possible. I want to bend them to raise or lower the 'ring' to suit. This is very important for a specific use of the Recoil that I have in mind. Thanks! Mo
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