Oh and I would be remiss if I didn't once again say a huge thank you to Kevin for devoting his time and effort is seeking data from manufacturers, and for his keeping up with all the data members are providing. Kevin, if we were to ever meet some day. I will surely offer to buy you one heck of a dinner.

Great job !!!!

Added Logan's additional info into Spreadsheet.

Here is my take regarding Logan's comment about the two rods of same length with very similar CCS measured powers and the rod with the more moderate action feeling significantly more powerful:
CCS just takes a measurement of the mass to deflect each rod to 33% of length. This is a great way to compare rods but it is looking at power at just one deflection point. Like was mentioned earlier if you went further and deflected each of those rods to say 40% of length it is very likely that the spread in your SJ would be greater than at the 33%. So if that was the case the SJ would have more "total" power. That has to do with how the rod is tapered along the length of the blank and can get complicated pretty quick. Looking at the specs for each of those blanks the SJ has a larger butt diameter so my take is that at the 33% deflection you just hadn't gotten as far into the backbone "total power" of your SJ blank.

You could experiment with those two blanks and continue deflecting them (just don't get to breaking point) and see if your SJ requires significantly more mass to deflect further than your MB.

I don't think I helped you much here and hoping that some others will chime in :)

Just wanted to post something about the two blanks I posted CCS numbers for recently. They were the original version of the X ray blanks, meaning they still had the resin ridges on them. I don't like those ridges so as with the very first 2 X ray blanks I got, I sanded them to remove the ridges.

Well, I've sanded one so far. The SB 724. The CCS numbers I posted for the two blank were on bare blanks that hadn't been sanded. Out of curiosity, I when and did an IP check on the SB 724 blank after sanding. The sanding changed the IP lowering it by 4 grams. No it's not a big deal. I just thought it was interesting.

I'm going to check them after I build them into rods, and see what kind of difference I come up with. It's most definitely going to change. Just curious how much it will change. I'll post results.

Noticed this error in the spreadsheet. There are two Lamiglas blanks, IMP843 and IMP843R, that are listed at 100 inches in length. They should be listed at 84 inches in length.

Ed Kramer Wrote:
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> Noticed this error in the spreadsheet. There are
> two Lamiglas blanks, IMP843 and IMP843R, that are
> listed at 100 inches in length. They should be
> listed at 84 inches in length.

Corrected spreadsheet for these Lamiglas blanks. Thanks for heads-up.

If any new builds in the pipeline get me those measurements. I've got some I need to get measured up here soon.

Added another batch of blanks to spreadsheet (and this thread). [docs.google.com]

Awhile back, I did a Pick10 deal from NFC to try out a range of those blanks. Several have already been entered but some new ones as well.

I also played around with the Xray MB764 by taking measurements as if 4" and 10" taken off the Butt since I believe looking at Catalog that the MB764, MB724, and MB684 are all the same with only the difference the length is shortened at Butt. Also, wanted to check CCS number for the Xray Neo MB 765 with 6" off the butt.

Anyhow, added this info in.

Manufacturer Series Model ID Length (Inches) IP (Grams) AA ERN
Pointblank PB801MXF 96 643 77 21.65
NFC X-ray DS-6100 82 303 76 12.7
NFC X-ray DS-721 86 266 76 11.74
NFC X-ray MB-7108 94 736 76 24.07
NFC X-ray MB-733 87 499 78 17.79
Two Different Blanks
NFC X-ray MB-736 87 629 71 21.31
NFC X-ray MB-736 87 654 72 22
NFC X-ray Neo MB-765 90 804 83 25.79
NFC X-ray Neo MB-765 (6" off butt) 7'-0" 84 780 82 25.31
NFC IM-LMX MUH-798 93 1471 65 30.15
NFC Delta FW 1264-2 150 205 65 9.99
Rainshadow Eternity ETES72M 86 465 77 16.9
NFC X-ray MB-764 90 657 77 22
NFC X-ray MB-764 (4" off butt) 7'-2" 86 623 76 20.96
NFC X-ray MB-764 (6" off butt) 7'-0" 84 609 75 20.62
NFC X-ray MB-764 (10" off butt) 6'-8" 80 583 74 20
Two Different Blanks
MHX MB MB873 87 792 73 25.55
MHX MB MB873 87 802 73 25.79

Have one I've been wanting to add, but wanted to get a few questions about it answered first

NFC MB-733 X ray. IP 557 grams. AA, 76.4

Added David's post above to database and also added several additional NFC X-Ray C602 models and one new X-ray model that had information provided by manufacturer via a promotional email.

Manufacturer Series Model ID Length (Inches) IP (Grams) AA ERN Pieces
NFC X-ray MB733 87 557 76.4 19.38 1
NFC X-ray P700 84 114 65 5.7 1
NFC X-ray C602 ST 933-2 111 293 73 12.5 2
NFC X-ray C602 ST 993-2 117 293 73 12.5 2
NFC X-ray C602 ST 1044-2 124 327 73 13.2 2
NFC X-ray C602 ST 10105-2 130 353 80 13.8 2
NFC X-ray C602 ST 1143-2 136 293 75 12.5 2

I got two MB 725 C6O2 blanks in yesterday, and took some CCS numbers for them

MB 725 X-ray C6O2 IP 712 grams AA 75.3

MB 725 X-ray C6O2 IP 699 grams AA 75.6

Just performed CCS measurements for a RodGeeks C4 blank

C4610MXF IP 529g AA 74.4

Hi all - sorry been a little while since I've updated spreadsheet. Anyhow, I updated to add above two posts from David and Evan. Also I had info from the Rainshadow Rev Travel Series blank model REVS72ML-3SB emailed to me. Additionally, I reached out to Geoff at Batson looking for some numbers on potential A-rig and/or big flutter spoon rods and he gave me some numbers on the Revelation SW966 and SW967 that were not in spreadsheet so I added those.

I've got some additional measurements that I just completed on some blanks that I picked up at ICRBE that I will post up here soon and also have some Stryker blanks headed my way in the mail that I will get up on the board and measure up as well.

If you have any new numbers reply to this thread and I'll add them.

Below is the info for the Rev Travel Blank and also the SW966 and SW967

Manufacturer Series Model ID Length (Inches) IP (Grams) AA ERN Pieces
Rainshadow Rev Travel REVS72L-3SB 86 400 71 15.1 3
Rainshadow Revelation SW966 94 1052 73 30.85 1
Rainshadow Revelation SW967 94 1302 72 36.50 1

Additionally, I updated the ERN lookup calculations to go all the way up to 8000 grams or an ERN of 193. The CCS Database numbers have been updated accordingly (that only impacts the very powerful rods (previously only calculated upto an ERN of 30.15).

Here are some blanks that I picked up at ICRBE and also a few others I hadn't previously measured.

Manufacturer Series Model ID Length (Inches) IP (Grams) AA ERN Pieces
Voodoo Crappie VD-IF968-2 114 293 63 12.49 2
Rodforge HTD 76MLF 90 416 73 15.51 1
Rodforge NSB 76MM 90 363 68 14.07 1
Rodforge NSB 76MM w/ 6" off butt 84 357 67 13.86 1
Rainshadow Eternity ETEC 76 MH 90 808 71 25.79 1
Pointblank PB701MLF 84 556 78 19.38 1
Pointblank PB691MLXF 81 528 77 18.62 1
NFC IM-Lmx SWB 805 96 914 69 27.94 1
NFC IM-Lmx SWB 808 96 1522 68 43 1
NFC IM-Lmx MB 704 84 620 73 20.96 1
NFC IM-Lmx MB 704 84 578 74 20 1
Mudhole OEM SC72UL 72 98 69 4.75 1
Mudhole OEM SC78L 78 167 69 8.4 1
NFC Xray SJ 736 87 762 78 24.76 1

Kevin, just a heads up: I think you entered the REVS72ML-3 as a REVS72L-3.

Thanks for all your efforts. This is a really awesome resource.

Jordan, I think you are right about the data; I believe the data came from me. I informed Kevin about it. It could be that I gave him the wrong number since I am building both blanks and may have mixed them up. The REVS72L-3 is about 270/11.9/72 I believe.

Corrected the data on spreadsheet for the REVS72ML. Also added info for the REVS72L. Both are below and on the spreadsheet. Thanks for heads up on need for correction

Manufacturer Series Model ID Length (Inches) IP (Grams) AA ERN Pieces
Rainshadow Revelation Travel REVS72L-3SB 86 270 72 11.88 3
Rainshadow Revelation Travel REVS72ML-3SB 86 400 71 15.1 3

Anyone have info on the NFC MB 735-1 (HM)?

Thanks Mick. Have you had a chance to fish those travel blanks? What are your thoughts?

No, have not fished them. Have cast the ML in the yard with a light Ned jig with a Ned, and it casts beautifully. I wanted to try it because my old travel rod, which I used for light glider jigs for bones + the occasional cuda was hard to cast accurately. The rod is a 20/80 if I remember right, and it didn't load well with the light jigs and the action was too fast which required very exact timing of the line release during the cast. The ML's power is better tuned to the lighter jigs and the slower action is less critical on release timing. Additionally, with the same reel and line on it as the old rod, it casts a little farther.

Our weather has been so bad since I finished the L that I have not even cast it in the yard.

Depending on one's intended lure weights, I think both of these blanks would build into very good BFS rods.

Thanks. They kind of piqued my interest as a travel rod. I'll have to follow up with you after you've fished them a bit more.

I cast the L with .230 total lure weight in the yard and it too is a very nice casting rod. I think it could go lower and higher in lure weight and still do well. Here is a link to the blanks: [batsonenterprises.com]

I'm going to dig out a lighter jig today and see how the rod likes it.

It doesn't look promising for fishing them soon; the cold windy weather just won't give up. Water temp has been going down, not up.