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Re: CCS Data Log
Posted by: David Baylor (---.res6.spectrum.com)
Date: October 26, 2023 05:38PM

Oh and I would be remiss if I didn't once again say a huge thank you to Kevin for devoting his time and effort is seeking data from manufacturers, and for his keeping up with all the data members are providing. Kevin, if we were to ever meet some day. I will surely offer to buy you one heck of a dinner.

Great job !!!!

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Re: CCS Data Log
Posted by: Kevin Fiant (---.columbus.res.rr.com)
Date: October 26, 2023 10:13PM

Added Logan's additional info into Spreadsheet.

Here is my take regarding Logan's comment about the two rods of same length with very similar CCS measured powers and the rod with the more moderate action feeling significantly more powerful:
CCS just takes a measurement of the mass to deflect each rod to 33% of length. This is a great way to compare rods but it is looking at power at just one deflection point. Like was mentioned earlier if you went further and deflected each of those rods to say 40% of length it is very likely that the spread in your SJ would be greater than at the 33%. So if that was the case the SJ would have more "total" power. That has to do with how the rod is tapered along the length of the blank and can get complicated pretty quick. Looking at the specs for each of those blanks the SJ has a larger butt diameter so my take is that at the 33% deflection you just hadn't gotten as far into the backbone "total power" of your SJ blank.

You could experiment with those two blanks and continue deflecting them (just don't get to breaking point) and see if your SJ requires significantly more mass to deflect further than your MB.

I don't think I helped you much here and hoping that some others will chime in :)

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Re: CCS Data Log
Posted by: David Baylor (---.res6.spectrum.com)
Date: October 27, 2023 05:07PM

Just wanted to post something about the two blanks I posted CCS numbers for recently. They were the original version of the X ray blanks, meaning they still had the resin ridges on them. I don't like those ridges so as with the very first 2 X ray blanks I got, I sanded them to remove the ridges.

Well, I've sanded one so far. The SB 724. The CCS numbers I posted for the two blank were on bare blanks that hadn't been sanded. Out of curiosity, I when and did an IP check on the SB 724 blank after sanding. The sanding changed the IP lowering it by 4 grams. No it's not a big deal. I just thought it was interesting.

I'm going to check them after I build them into rods, and see what kind of difference I come up with. It's most definitely going to change. Just curious how much it will change. I'll post results.

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Re: CCS Data Log
Posted by: Ed Kramer (---)
Date: November 06, 2023 04:22PM

Noticed this error in the spreadsheet. There are two Lamiglas blanks, IMP843 and IMP843R, that are listed at 100 inches in length. They should be listed at 84 inches in length.

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Re: CCS Data Log
Posted by: Kevin Fiant (---.bgsu.edu)
Date: November 17, 2023 06:09PM

Ed Kramer Wrote:
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> Noticed this error in the spreadsheet. There are
> two Lamiglas blanks, IMP843 and IMP843R, that are
> listed at 100 inches in length. They should be
> listed at 84 inches in length.

Corrected spreadsheet for these Lamiglas blanks. Thanks for heads-up.

If any new builds in the pipeline get me those measurements. I've got some I need to get measured up here soon.

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Re: CCS Data Log
Posted by: Kevin Fiant (---.res.spectrum.com)
Date: December 10, 2023 12:03AM

Added another batch of blanks to spreadsheet (and this thread). [docs.google.com]

Awhile back, I did a Pick10 deal from NFC to try out a range of those blanks. Several have already been entered but some new ones as well.

I also played around with the Xray MB764 by taking measurements as if 4" and 10" taken off the Butt since I believe looking at Catalog that the MB764, MB724, and MB684 are all the same with only the difference the length is shortened at Butt. Also, wanted to check CCS number for the Xray Neo MB 765 with 6" off the butt.

Anyhow, added this info in.

Manufacturer Series Model ID Length (Inches) IP (Grams) AA ERN
Pointblank PB801MXF 96 643 77 21.65
NFC X-ray DS-6100 82 303 76 12.7
NFC X-ray DS-721 86 266 76 11.74
NFC X-ray MB-7108 94 736 76 24.07
NFC X-ray MB-733 87 499 78 17.79
Two Different Blanks
NFC X-ray MB-736 87 629 71 21.31
NFC X-ray MB-736 87 654 72 22
NFC X-ray Neo MB-765 90 804 83 25.79
NFC X-ray Neo MB-765 (6" off butt) 7'-0" 84 780 82 25.31
NFC IM-LMX MUH-798 93 1471 65 30.15
NFC Delta FW 1264-2 150 205 65 9.99
Rainshadow Eternity ETES72M 86 465 77 16.9
NFC X-ray MB-764 90 657 77 22
NFC X-ray MB-764 (4" off butt) 7'-2" 86 623 76 20.96
NFC X-ray MB-764 (6" off butt) 7'-0" 84 609 75 20.62
NFC X-ray MB-764 (10" off butt) 6'-8" 80 583 74 20
Two Different Blanks
MHX MB MB873 87 792 73 25.55
MHX MB MB873 87 802 73 25.79

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Re: CCS Data Log
Posted by: David Baylor (---.res.spectrum.com)
Date: December 30, 2023 04:00PM

Have one I've been wanting to add, but wanted to get a few questions about it answered first

NFC MB-733 X ray. IP 557 grams. AA, 76.4

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Re: CCS Data Log
Posted by: Kevin Fiant (---.res.spectrum.com)
Date: January 27, 2024 08:59PM

Added David's post above to database and also added several additional NFC X-Ray C602 models and one new X-ray model that had information provided by manufacturer via a promotional email.

Manufacturer Series Model ID Length (Inches) IP (Grams) AA ERN Pieces
NFC X-ray MB733 87 557 76.4 19.38 1
NFC X-ray P700 84 114 65 5.7 1
NFC X-ray C602 ST 933-2 111 293 73 12.5 2
NFC X-ray C602 ST 993-2 117 293 73 12.5 2
NFC X-ray C602 ST 1044-2 124 327 73 13.2 2
NFC X-ray C602 ST 10105-2 130 353 80 13.8 2
NFC X-ray C602 ST 1143-2 136 293 75 12.5 2

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Re: CCS Data Log
Posted by: David Baylor (---.res6.spectrum.com)
Date: February 08, 2024 06:19PM

I got two MB 725 C6O2 blanks in yesterday, and took some CCS numbers for them

MB 725 X-ray C6O2 IP 712 grams AA 75.3

MB 725 X-ray C6O2 IP 699 grams AA 75.6

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