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Cutting down a blank
Posted by:
Glenn McMurrian
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Date: December 29, 2013 05:16PM
By cutting down a blank from 6.6 down to 6ft to much of a change I will be cutting it down from the butt end of the nlank. Glenn McMurrian Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 12/29/2013 05:48PM by Glenn McMurrian. Re: Cutting down a blank
Posted by:
Tom Kirkman
(Moderator)
Date: December 29, 2013 05:27PM
Maybe, it really depends on which end you trim from. A lot of change for sure if you trim from the tip end. Some change if you trim from the bottom end.
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Posted by:
Glenn McMurrian
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Date: December 29, 2013 05:52PM
I will be cutting it down from the butt end. Glenn McMurrian Re: Cutting down a blank
Posted by:
bill boettcher
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Date: December 29, 2013 05:58PM
Why do you want to cut it ?? Bill - willierods.com Re: Cutting down a blank
Posted by:
Tom Kirkman
(Moderator)
Date: December 29, 2013 06:20PM
The action will become slower and the resulting rod will be less powerful than it is now.
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Posted by:
bill boettcher
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Date: December 29, 2013 06:27PM
Tom is correct Like he always is
You will take the Stiffer Part of the blank ( the butt ) off The flex of the tip will move down If the blank is a Mod- fast tip it will then become ( more or less ) a Moderate the flex will go closer to the butt end You can see if you like it Buy marking the blank where you want to cut the butt put several guides on and string it up Cast it See if you like it Or just get a blank you like Bill - willierods.com Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 12/29/2013 06:29PM by bill boettcher. Re: Cutting down a blank
Posted by:
roger wilson
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Date: December 29, 2013 09:55PM
Be safe Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 12/30/2013 05:51PM by roger wilson. Re: Cutting down a blank
Posted by:
Terry Kirk
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Date: December 29, 2013 11:01PM
I would ask the same thing Bill asked, why would one want to cut or lengthen a blank? With the CCS system and the multitude of quality blank manufacturers what is the purpose, I have yet to see a blank that can't be found for the application without altering the blank? From what I saw on the blank manufacturing processes, blanks are designed to be a certain thickness in different areas of the blank. If one starts cutting into those areas aren't you weakening the blank? Do manufacturers warranty these types of alterations, I am betting not? Do you advise your customers accordingly, what do you put on the rod if the customer wanted the manufacturer label on it? Re: Cutting down a blank
Posted by:
Tom Kirkman
(Moderator)
Date: December 30, 2013 07:44AM
The action does change - it always becomes slower. Here's easy way to understand it. Say you have a fast action blank with the initial flex taking place in the upper 1/3rd of the blank's length. Now cut away the lower 2/3rds of the blank. Now the initial flex will take place in the entire blank length, making it a slow action blank.
Cutting a blank from either end always creates a slower action. There is no such thing as a "heavy action." ............ Re: Cutting down a blank
Posted by:
Steve Gardner
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Date: December 30, 2013 08:26AM
Terry;
At least one of the site's sponsors sells a line of blanks in which they advertise can be- "Can be built full length or custom trimmed to your specifications." There are sometimes when specific needs require cutting blanks. Re: Cutting down a blank
Posted by:
jim spooner
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Date: December 30, 2013 10:00AM
Since most of the rods I use are less than 6’, it’s aggravating that most manufacturers don’t offer blanks shorter than 6 ½' length…..especially in higher powers. Fortunately I generally don’t like extra fast actions, so I don’t lose much in that regard. Voiding the warranty is an issue, but so far, not a problem. Also having to discard the cut-offs is money wasted….although on occasion I’ve been able to use them for blank extensions.
In regard to the power lost, ironically, the shorter rod will actually feel more powerful because of the mechanical advantage. Re: Cutting down a blank
Posted by:
bill boettcher
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Date: December 30, 2013 10:10AM
I have a card board tube from a delivery that I put any scrap in Lay it in the corner under furniture hang from the celling ???? Bill - willierods.com Re: Cutting down a blank
Posted by:
Tom Kirkman
(Moderator)
Date: December 30, 2013 10:16AM
I think the shorter rod blanks went by the wayside with the advent of "straight-thru" rod construction. In the days of pistol grips and other handles that fastened to the blank with a chuck or ferrule. there were plenty of 4'8" to 5'2" blanks around. Things have a way of coming back around every so often, however, so it's always possible they'll make another appearance.
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Posted by:
jim spooner
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Date: December 30, 2013 11:03AM
I also think part of the evolution was to go longer for casting distance and to facilitate techniques such as flipp’n/ pitching…….which also led to longer grips to allow two hand casting and recover some of the mechanical advantage….. and balance the tip-heavy rod.
I still have one of the old pistol grip (Fuji) handled rods (w/ferrule) that I’ve kept for sentimental reasons. It amazes me to pick it up and appreciate how much lighter modern-day rods are by comparison. Re: Cutting down a blank
Posted by:
Tim Demond
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Date: January 03, 2014 09:22AM
Shorter blanks do have their place. I fish docks at LOZ. and a short rod with a pistol grip makes sense there. Some people like to hold their rod close to their body when fighting a fish, this is another application of a shorter handle and or rod. As a side note I found a very old steel rod with a pistol grip, pretty sure every vibration will transmit thu that rod. Sorry, only registered users may post in this forum.
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