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Most Valuable Innovation?
Posted by:
James Newsome
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Date: May 28, 2013 10:32AM
Had a talk with a fishing bud over the weekend about what is the best major advance in overall rod building technology in the past half century. He says graphite blanks, but I thought about all the rods where other materials like glass or bamboo are still more suited, so my thinking is the advent of ceramic guides, since nearly all rods except fly rods now have them. What say you? Re: Most Valuable Innovation?
Posted by:
Phil Ewanicki
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Date: May 28, 2013 11:55AM
Many rods, including both fly rods and conventional rods, were using agate ring guides nearly a century ago. Agate ring guides are nearly identical to modern ceramic guides in form and composition. I'm going to have to go with your buddy on graphite.
Funny how big advances in fields as diverse as rod building and electronics owe their advances to the space program - reputed by some to be a waste of money. Re: Most Valuable Innovation?
Posted by:
David Gilberg
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Date: May 28, 2013 12:57PM
I love agate stripping guides for bamboo rods but would you want an agate tip ?
Lightweight modern ceramics are certainly a great advancement. I would say the computer brought the greatest advance to rod building technology as they have to just about every technology in that time frame. From material design and manufacture all the way to wholesale and retail operations as well as getting the parts to our doors. And then there's the benefit of information sharing on forums such as this. Hands down it's the computer. Bill Gates made me say it. Re: Most Valuable Innovation?
Posted by:
Casey Abell
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Date: May 28, 2013 01:36PM
Phil Ewanicki Wrote:
------------------------------------------------------- > Many rods, including both fly rods and > conventional rods, were using agate ring guides > nearly a century ago. Agate ring guides are nearly > identical to modern ceramic guides in form and > composition. I'm going to have to go with your > buddy on graphite. > Funny how big advances in fields as diverse as rod > building and electronics owe their advances to the > space program - reputed by some to be a waste of > money. There could be an entire new thread started just on advances that came from the space program. So so many things we use in everyday life came from NASA. Re: Most Valuable Innovation?
Posted by:
Randolph Ruwe
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Date: May 28, 2013 02:42PM
I was once told by two different rod/blank mfgs. that if S-glass had come before graphite that it would be in the forefront of rod building and not trailing graphite. There are so many inovations that it is impossible to say which is the most significant. Re: Most Valuable Innovation?
Posted by:
Jim Allen
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Date: May 28, 2013 06:06PM
Fly rod guides that fit the shape of the rod blank did it for me,its just alot easyer for me and my fingers to fumble with.I dont have alot of experience Im on about my 20th rod so far. Re: Most Valuable Innovation?
Posted by:
Randolph Ruwe
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Date: May 28, 2013 06:25PM
Jim, good for you!! Keep at it, I don't know how old you are, but I am going on 70, and also going towards 3,000 rods. I have 40 in the works now, and feel like I could make another couple thousand. Enjoy, and let your brain take you where no other rod builder has gone!! Re: Most Valuable Innovation?
Posted by:
curtis drumm
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Date: May 28, 2013 08:34PM
Microwave guide line control system. Re: Most Valuable Innovation?
Posted by:
Jim Allen
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Date: May 28, 2013 10:50PM
Randolph Ruwe Wrote:
------------------------------------------------------- > Jim, good for you!! Keep at it, I don't know how > old you are, but I am going on 70, and also going > towards 3,000 rods. I have 40 in the works now, > and feel like I could make another couple > thousand. Enjoy, and let your brain take you > where no other rod builder has gone!! Thank you Randolph that great inspiration, Im 51,Thats alot of rod building you have done. Re: Most Valuable Innovation?
Posted by:
Randolph Ruwe
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Date: May 28, 2013 11:13PM
Nearly all were fun and only a few turned into work. That doesn't count the countless test wraps I did!! It was fun experimenting, coming up with new wraps, techniques, etc. Experiment!!! Re: Most Valuable Innovation?
Posted by:
Steve Cox
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Date: May 29, 2013 12:25AM
Without a doubt ..... the internet! Re: Most Valuable Innovation?
Posted by:
Steve Cox
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Date: May 29, 2013 12:27AM
Without a doubt ..... the internet! Re: Most Valuable Innovation?
Posted by:
Col Chaseling
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Date: May 29, 2013 09:26AM
I'd have to agree wholeheartedly with Steve Cox. Without it this wonderful little alcove wouldn't be here and it has changed a lot of my rodbuilding in a lot of ways. I could go on for ages what it has done for me and I'm just one builder. ESFNEM Col Port Kembla, NSW Australia Re: Most Valuable Innovation?
Posted by:
Mark Fisher
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Date: May 29, 2013 12:17PM
I'm with Steve all the way - it has enabled us to share ideas and techniques which is pushing everyone to go that step further.
Also, as someone really into thread-work - the use of Polyesters has been a huge jump forward in colour use and cross-wrapping. Regards Mark Outback Rods Australia Re: Most Valuable Innovation?
Posted by:
Garry Thornton
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Date: May 29, 2013 01:50PM
I'm pushing 70 and in my lifetime I recall a number of small but significant improvements to my fishing in general...
Skirted spools on spinning reels. Soft sented plastics for worms et al. Ceramic guides. Graphite blanks. Spectra type braided line. Re: Most Valuable Innovation?
Posted by:
Ken Finch
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Date: May 29, 2013 02:13PM
Rodmaker Magazine. Ten times more info than all these forums put together and usually a year or two ahead of the internet. Re: Most Valuable Innovation?
Posted by:
James Newsome
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Date: May 29, 2013 02:19PM
I would agree Ken. But I was thinking along the lines of hard goods not information. Re: Most Valuable Innovation?
Posted by:
Randolph Ruwe
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Date: May 29, 2013 02:34PM
The most valuable innovation in my opinion is the Rod Builder him or herself. Without demands for improved goods and the experimentation by Rod Builders, we would not be where we are today. Re: Most Valuable Innovation?
Posted by:
Robert A. Guist
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Date: May 29, 2013 07:47PM
Hello All.
I have to agree with Randalph, it's the rodbuilders themselves, in the form of innovation. No people no innovation. Tight Wraps. Bob, New Bern, NC. Re: Most Valuable Innovation?
Posted by:
Phil Erickson
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Date: May 29, 2013 10:16PM
The question is "what is the major advance in rod building TECHNOLOGY?" Sorry, only registered users may post in this forum.
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