I recently viewed a tutorial on doing a single thread trim band. It involved using a coffee stirring straw. I was planning on trying it tonight, but have lost it. I already tried a couple of searches here with no luck. Anybody out there remember it? Thanks

Harry T. Bell

I think Mudhole has a video on that.

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Super Tight Lines......Don

Harry,
You are correct.
Basically, you make a nail knot with the trim band and use the straw to help you form it.

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Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 04/23/2013 11:56PM by roger wilson.

Pretty hard to tie a nail knot with only a single thread turn. If you can't trap the tag ends of your trim band under the main wrap your only real option is CA.

Got it. That's it. Thanks for the memory boost!!

Thank you my man. Will check it out

Seems like a nail knot with only one loop is a lot like a simple half hitch. I think to do a single thread on the outside would require placing the thread and a pull-through loop before starting the winding, then after winding the main thread a little way, wrap the single around once then pull it under.

there is a turtorial on single turn trim bands in the rod builders library

Lol...I missed the single part, it would be a half hitch.

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Super Tight Lines......Don

There are much easier ways to do a single, double, or any number turns of a trim band. trying to do a nail knot sounds ridiculous to me!!

Randolph,
If you break it down, in spite of the other comments, virtually all of the methods to tie a trim band are just a variation of a nail knot.
A nail knot is nothing more then a wrap around something, with each end going back through the loop in the opposite direction.

Virtually all of the trim methods are going to do the same thing.
Take a wrap and tuck the wrap back under itself - or a nail knot.

Roger

Roger, not true!! I can make a single, double, triple, etc. trim band, and with the tail end of the trim thread do an inlay in the guide wrap. No type of nail knot involved!!

Randolph,
If you have a chance, please take a video and mail it to me. I am always willing to learn.
Roger

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I would like to see if your trim work is done differently than the way that I do the trim work.

Thanks again.

There are numerous ways of doing them, but a nail knot )or clove hitch) is NOT ridiculous!!! The comment is.

Roger, I will give it a try, I am no photog or video expert. I taught this method to hundreds of rod builders at the 1st 6 PNW Rodcrafters seminars, everyone was amazed at how simple it was, and wondered why they never thought of it. Also taught it at numerous International Sportsmans Expos, and 3 AFTMA shows. One old timer,(about my age now) said I couldn't do it. When I showed him how, he said "that's cheating". I told him that when you make something so much easier, it is not cheating.

Randolph I would like to see your method also, im relearning after 40 yrs.

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thanks much

Curt

Phil, not to be disrespectful, but a clove hitch or nail knot is not just slow, it is also in danger of coming undone at any time that it is touched by your fingers, a brush, or spatula. Or just from environmental conditions. My way will not come undone, EVER!! I will post directions soon. I have to make dinner right now. :>)

I too like to learn your method Randolph.

Hi Harry,
Just a thought, the way I do the single trim band, is, you do not use the straw for the single band, only for the actual trim band itself.

Randolph, Totally agree with you, I stumbled onto it years back, use it often, never had a problem with it unravelling. The other thing about it, is, it is as easy to do, as mixing two portions of hardener when applying finish.


over to you for the video, Randolph.

Regards, Rod.
M'boro, Qld.

Hello All.

A gentleman named Bill Worden did an tutorial called "Single Turn Trim Wrap" it is located in "RodBuildingForum.com" and is very interesting and easy to accomplish.

Tight Wraps.

Bob,

New Bern, NC.