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Gold Cermet guides
Posted by: Keith Neidhart (---.hot.res.rr.com)
Date: October 17, 2006 08:01AM

Who's used them? I have wanted to for a while but the cost has kept me from trying them. I honestly doubt there is much of a noticable difference in performance over some other guides but I have a couple blanks on order that I'd like to go all out with and can't quite convince myself to pull the trigger. ...lol

Hoping for feedback from any of you that have built or fished with Gold Cermets. Could you tell a difference over other guides?

Thanks,

Keith

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Re: Gold Cermet guides
Posted by: Paul Kneller (---.nsw.bigpond.net.au)
Date: October 17, 2006 08:40AM

Keith.
I have built and own several rods with Gold Cermet guides. I think they are fantastic and I will be using them again, I do believe they bring out the best of light spin blanks. When finished they almost give you the impression the blank has no guides bound on it. I also have them a few heavier casting rods but the difference between the Ti frames and S/S are not as noticable. Build two light spin sticks, one on Cermets and one standard frames and you will feel the difference. Cheers Paul.
P.S: REC Recoils single foots with a Fuji Ti/Sil tip are even lighter.

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Re: Gold Cermet guides
Posted by: Bruce Wetzel (---.nmci.navy.mil)
Date: October 17, 2006 08:44AM

I built a surf rod for my brother 2 years ago, and he had to have cermet guides (for looks mostly). They appear to hold up really well, and still look brand new.......as far as casting performance, I don't see any difference. I think maybe they are used mostly so you can say "yeah, these are gold cermets". Just my 2 cents.

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Re: Gold Cermet guides
Posted by: Scott Parsons (205.244.119.---)
Date: October 17, 2006 01:54PM

I am not familar with this type of guide where can I look at them or who sells them? Thanks. Scott

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Re: Gold Cermet guides
Posted by: Scott Youschak (72.242.111.---)
Date: October 17, 2006 02:07PM


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Re: Gold Cermet guides
Posted by: Jim Gamble (---.tampabay.res.rr.com)
Date: October 17, 2006 02:47PM

And here as well ...

[www.anglersresource.net]

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Re: Gold Cermet guides
Posted by: Mark B. Gonsalves (---.hawaii.res.rr.com)
Date: October 18, 2006 01:14AM

Aloha. I've had these on a 12' Sage spinning rod for about 7-10(?) years now. Except for bending a couple of the size 8 single foots and then bending them back into shape they have performed perfectly. I'm not positive but I think the cermet ring is a bit thinner than the SIC ring. The titanium frames are still perfect- no corrosion in our salt air. It seems to be "quieter" when using braided lines too. Could be I'm just getting deafer with age. By the way they really look nice. These were the first guides I used when the first article about the new guide concept was written in the RodMaker magazine. That's how long they've been in use. Plan to use some on some Rainshadows next.

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Re: Gold Cermet guides
Posted by: Matt Davis (---.prtel.com)
Date: October 18, 2006 07:21AM

For me, I can't justify the cost because I don't see the performance over SiC for the fishing I do.

However...

I have an acquaintance that works for a large medical equipment manufacturer and in the test lab he took some various guides and ran one of those large spools of Power Pro through guides at high speed and then checked their temperature with a laser thermometer. After running 3000 feet, or some such ridiculous length of line through the guides, the Gold Cermet was the only guide that was still cool to the touch. Heat dissipation is excellent. Hard running fish using light lines...seems like the ideal place. Bass rods...not so much.





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Better to have and not need than to need and not have.

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Re: Gold Cermet guides
Posted by: Dave Gilberg (---.pghk.east.verizon.net)
Date: October 18, 2006 05:24PM

If I was building a fly rod for Tarpon fishing I'd love to rig it with Fuji Cermets. For the fishing I do Fuji Titanium Sic's are more than sufficient. Alconites are actually fine for 95% of my needs. American Tackle makes some awesome guides too for rods where weight is not an issue.

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Re: Gold Cermet guides
Posted by: Mo Yang (219.140.111.---)
Date: October 20, 2006 11:09PM

I believe that the SICS are actually HARDER than the Cermets. Cermets dispel heat better though.

As to weight, if you want lightweight, the Fuji TATSG SICs are almost as light as the Rec Recoil RSPG! Not sure if the Cermets are actually lighter. Based on what I know, even if they cost the same, I'd still pick the SIC over the Cermet.

I've talked to Fuji and the Cermets have grooved before on them while the SICs supposedly never. THis is obviously a VERY RARE occurence.

Mo


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