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Inscription
Posted by: Kevin Stull (---.client.comcast.net)
Date: January 14, 2005 08:28PM

What is the best way to incribe directly on to the blank (rather than on top of a wrapped section)? What kind of prep work is needed on the blank before doing my inscription? Thanks!

Kevin

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Re: Inscription
Posted by: Anonymous User (---.proxy.aol.com)
Date: January 14, 2005 09:44PM

Maybe Im wrong here... I would not inscribe (I think you mean write on, like with a silver marker or something) on
a wrapped section, I would always do it on the blank. A very light sanding, unless you have a matte surface blank,
otherwise the ink or paint doesnt adhere well and looks crappy. Good luck, Im too shakey from booze and
blunt head trauma, no way can I feehand on a blank. Im waiting for some stickers. Levi

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Re: Inscription
Posted by: Stan Hansen (---.proxy.aol.com)
Date: January 14, 2005 09:46PM

Kevin, after a few misques and beers I finally ended up with the following procedure.
I use a Hybred Gel Roller pen, print over a clear epoxy section (wait til epoxy is dry) then
I zap it, in about a couple hours with Krylon clear Acrylic, let dry for about an hour, and then
give it a final coat of finish, ( I still use Flex Coat H/B) I have no more nightmares.
Hope this helps
Stan

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Re: Inscription
Posted by: Tony Ertola (---.dyn.optonline.net)
Date: January 14, 2005 10:12PM

I just bought some avery clear labels to print out inscriptions. Much to my dismay, I found out my inkjet doesn't print white or anything else that shows up well and looks good on a matt charcoal blank.

How are white inscriptions printed?

I wound up writing on the labels with silver gel pen then placed it on the blank before covering with epoxy. It's definately easier than trying to write on the blank. Unfortunately the edges of the label are very visible on the matt blank. I should've put some clear gloss on first I guess.

Tony


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Re: Inscription
Posted by: Randy Parpart (Putter) (---.nccray.com)
Date: January 15, 2005 12:23AM

My Alps MD1000 prints in white. I use the waterslide decal paper from Decal Connection. I tried inkjets and Avery labels; couldn't ever see anything on the decal on a dark blank-only on a white background would it show up. Never could get that "opaque" look out of the Avery's on a blank, either, but read a post recently where someone figured out how to do it.
So I bought the Alps...but mostly use metallic silver and gold from it.

Putter

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Re: Inscription
Posted by: Bob Balcombe (---.rb.gh.centurytel.net)
Date: January 15, 2005 01:43AM

Kevin For a pen I use a quill pen . Then I use art acilic art pant thined down to flow off the quill nib. I prep. the blank, by lightly scuffing the blank with a gray Scotch Brite scuff pad. I scuff only where I am going to write. I let it set for about 15 minutes. then I put on one thin coat of C/P going in one direction horizonally only. Just one swipe no back and forth direction. Let set and then put a finish coat on
Good Wraps Bob

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Re: Inscription
Posted by: Rich Matranga (---.dsl.scrm01.pacbell.net)
Date: January 15, 2005 04:16AM

I have used rub -on letters with nice results. The leters come on a clear plastic sheet and all you do is rub the back side which transfers the letters to the rod. I got them at OfficeMax or Office Depot.

Rich

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Re: Inscription
Posted by: Larry Voltz (---.ips.paulbunyan.net)
Date: January 15, 2005 10:12AM

Kevin,

I've struggles with this on the last rod I built. Couldn't get the gel pen to not smear. I ended up trying a technique my son had used for a writing class he had in college. He took a small branch - maple I think, about the size of a pencil. He took a knife and sharpened the point so it was super fine. I then dipped the very tip of the point in testors model paint (same color I used for marbelizing the blank) and wrote the person's name on it. I thought the results were good - the recipient was very happy. it does take a little practice and works similar to the quill pen. If nothing else, something else that makes the project a "one of a kind". Good Luck!

Larry

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Re: Inscription
Posted by: Jay Lancaster (208.33.68.---)
Date: January 15, 2005 10:28AM

One of the best instruments to use to hand inscribe a blank is a Rapidograph technical pen and india ink. These pens can be found with very fine points. If you use gel ink, you must allow them to dry completely...either over a 24 hour period or with the aid of a hair dryer. When applying CP to gel inks do it quickly, lightly, and in one direction. I try to 'lightly' brush over the top of the gel ink in only one swipe. After the CP has dried you can come back with a more liberal coat without worry of the gel smearing.

I'm intrigued about the Alps printer Randy spoke about for his decals. Is there a web site that I could view one of these? Sounds interesting. Thanks.

Jay

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Re: Inscription
Posted by: Joel Todd (---.nas32.chicago3.il.us.da.qwest.net)
Date: January 15, 2005 10:36AM

I write directly on the blank using a DecoColor or Sakura brand paint pen.They are available from some of the sponsors (Netcraft).You can also get them at Michaels hobby stores.Make sure you get the extra fine point.I've used gold and silver.
I've used them on both matte and gloss finish blanks.The only prep I do is to wipe the area first with alcohol.Another suggestion is to have your trim bands in place before writing,that way you don't smudge your inscription.If you don't like the way it turns out you just wipe it clean with some alcohol and try again.

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Re: Inscription
Posted by: Joel Todd (---.nas32.chicago3.il.us.da.qwest.net)
Date: January 15, 2005 10:37AM

I write directly on the blank using a DecoColor or Sakura brand paint pen.They are available from some of the sponsors (Netcraft).You can also get them at Michaels hobby stores.Make sure you get the extra fine point.I've used gold and silver.
I've used them on both matte and gloss finish blanks.The only prep I do is to wipe the area first with alcohol.Another suggestion is to have your trim bands in place before writing,that way you don't smudge your inscription.If you don't like the way it turns out you just wipe it clean with some alcohol and try again.

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Re: Inscription
Posted by: Joel Todd (---.nas32.chicago3.il.us.da.qwest.net)
Date: January 15, 2005 10:37AM

I write directly on the blank using a DecoColor or Sakura brand paint pen.They are available from some of the sponsors (Netcraft).You can also get them at Michaels hobby stores.Make sure you get the extra fine point.I've used gold and silver.
I've used them on both matte and gloss finish blanks.The only prep I do is to wipe the area first with alcohol.Another suggestion is to have your trim bands in place before writing,that way you don't smudge your inscription.If you don't like the way it turns out you just wipe it clean with some alcohol and try again.

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Re: Inscription
Posted by: Joel Todd (---.nas32.chicago3.il.us.da.qwest.net)
Date: January 15, 2005 10:39AM

I write directly on the blank using a DecoColor or Sakura brand paint pen.They are available from some of the sponsors (Netcraft).You can also get them at Michaels hobby stores.Make sure you get the extra fine point.I've used gold and silver.
I've used them on both matte and gloss finish blanks.The only prep I do is to wipe the area first with alcohol.Another suggestion is to have your trim bands in place before writing,that way you don't smudge your inscription.If you don't like the way it turns out you just wipe it clean with some alcohol and try again.

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Re: Inscription
Posted by: Joel Todd (---.nas32.chicago3.il.us.da.qwest.net)
Date: January 15, 2005 10:43AM

Sorry for the duplicate posts.I kept getting an error when trying to post and didn't realize it was going through.Joel

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Re: Inscription
Posted by: Doug Moore (---.dfw.dsl-w.verizon.net)
Date: January 15, 2005 11:05AM

Tony,

If you are going to use Avery lables and an ink jet, you will have to apply your label over white thread and print out your label with white lettering on a background to match the blanks color.

Regards

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Re: Inscription
Posted by: Jay Lancaster (12.174.138.---)
Date: January 15, 2005 02:25PM

Another option when using standard mailing lables. Simply use a white lable, print it in color with the letter being white. You can apply this directly to the blank w/o winding thread under it first. Jay

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Re: Inscription
Posted by: Mike Barkley (---.nap.wideopenwest.com)
Date: January 15, 2005 10:47PM

Save yourself a lot of time/money. Have Jimi at Decal Connection whip it up to your specs for 2 or 3 bucks. You can even write it out, scan it and have him make a great waterslide with you handwriting on it\

You can't go wrong! Great stuff

Mike

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Re: Inscription
Posted by: Ed Carr (---.msn.com)
Date: January 16, 2005 12:01AM

I bought a couple pens from the hobby section at Wal Mart gold and silver. I scuff blank where I want to write I set up rod between pieces of wood so its like writing on a flat surface. I then put about 5 pieces of masking tape one on top of the other keeping edges even, take stack and stick to blank to use as a straight edge after you write a line pull tape off wipe edge of any wet ink and use again. If I screw up I pull tape off and wipe letter off with alcohol then restick tape and continue. I let dry about 45 min. then apply epox. it has worked so far. ED...

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