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White thread on a dark blank. Thread type?
Posted by:
Francis Santangelo
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Date: July 07, 2023 09:48PM
I should use NCP or NOCP? Whats the difference?
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Posted by:
Norman Miller
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Date: July 07, 2023 10:38PM
No difference, both are the same and stand for No color preserver needed to preserve the original color. Unlike regular nylon thread, the NCP/NoCP thread contains an additive which prevents the epoxy finish from soaking into the thread and causing it to darken and become more translucent. Hence, the thread is colorfast with original color of the thread being maintained.
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Posted by:
Mark Talmo
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Date: July 08, 2023 12:42AM
Francis,
While Norman is certainly correct (as usual) regarding “NCP”/ “NOCP” thread versus regular “Nylon” thread, you may possibly still be confused as to which to use for a particular wrap; especially white thread over a black blank. Although “color-fast” NCP or NOCP thread is treated to minimize color change after finish application, such extreme color difference will still darken the white thread from the black base. Although thread coatings such as “color preserver” may lessen the darkening of the white thread (NCP or regular nylon), it is safe to say that the white thread will still succumb to darkening over a black base. Test, test, test. Mark Talmo FISHING IS NOT AN ESCAPE FROM LIFE BUT RATHER A DEEPER IMMERSION INTO IT!!! BUILDING YOUR OWN SIMPLY ENHANCES THE EXPERIENCE. Re: White thread on a dark blank. Thread type?
Posted by:
Michael Tarr
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Date: July 08, 2023 08:25AM This is Fuji’s Ultra Poly NOCP in White on a clear coated blank, not a black blank. I could have packed the treads better but this is my old surf rod I replaced the guides on. Re: White thread on a dark blank. Thread type?
Posted by:
Spencer Phipps
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Date: July 08, 2023 02:59PM
Paint the blank white where you are wrapping it. Re: White thread on a dark blank. Thread type?
Posted by:
Tom Kirkman
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Date: July 08, 2023 03:57PM
NCP white AND color preserver, will give you the most colorfast and opaque white over black.
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Posted by:
Michael Danek
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Date: July 09, 2023 06:46AM
When there is a high contrast between the blank color and thread color packing becomes more important. Much of the discolored wraps that are reported are actually due to poor packing and not CP failures, in my opinion., . White on black is probably the most challenging situat Re: White thread on a dark blank. Thread type?
Posted by:
roger wilson
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Date: July 09, 2023 02:13PM
Often, when wrapping a light color on a dark blank; some builders do an underwrap in silver.
If you prefer a look - that is the result of such a practice, go for it. Take care Re: White thread on a dark blank. Thread type?
Posted by:
Roger Templon
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Date: July 09, 2023 07:17PM
Francis
What Tom said ! Rog Re: White thread on a dark blank. Thread type?
Posted by:
Michael Ward
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Date: July 10, 2023 11:15PM
I’ve found Fuji’s NOCP white to be the best I’ve used. You still have to pack it TIGHT / and then some more.
Doing an underwrap in silver can help with any light color. You can also double wrap it in white. I’ve also colored the epoxy with the pigment of Testors enable paint and applied a couple of coats once on a rod what was just white wraps on a black blank Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 07/10/2023 11:29PM by Michael Ward. Re: White thread on a dark blank. Thread type?
Posted by:
Tom Kirkman
(Moderator)
Date: July 11, 2023 08:35AM
You can also add white pigment to your epoxy and get a perfectly white wrap. Granted, all epoxies are going to amber just a bit as they age, but if you simply want as white as white can be in or under epoxy, this is one trick you can fall back on.
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