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mineral spirits before epoxy
Posted by:
Ken Brown 2
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Date: September 16, 2019 03:06PM
I just finished up my butt wrap where I added some CP to it. I would like to wipe it down with some mineral spirits before applying the epoxy. Ive never used mineral spirits before, so I wanted to check with the experts before I mess up my thread work.
Will wiping down the rod mess up the CP? Is there such a thing as 'too much' when it comes to mineral spirits that might not dry which then affects the epoxy when applied? Re: mineral spirits before epoxy
Posted by:
Robert A. Guist
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Date: September 16, 2019 03:13PM
Hello Ken.
Never do a chemical wipe-down just before epoxy. Yes it can mess up the CP. And yes to much is too much. [www.rodbuilding.org] Tight Wraps & Tighter Lines. Bob, New Bern, NC. Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 09/16/2019 03:24PM by Robert A. Guist. Re: mineral spirits before epoxy
Posted by:
ben belote
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Date: September 16, 2019 03:17PM
nothing between CP and finish except maybe another CP coat..lol. Re: mineral spirits before epoxy
Posted by:
Mark Talmo
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Date: September 16, 2019 03:22PM
Ken,
DON’T DO IT! You should already have a clean surface (CP over thread) which is ready for epoxy. Mineral spirits is more oily than acetone or DNA and even those two should not be wiped on a blank, let alone thread, prior to epoxy without scuffing first. I am certain Tom and Roger will reply. Mark Talmo FISHING IS NOT AN ESCAPE FROM LIFE BUT RATHER A DEEPER IMMERSION INTO IT!!! BUILDING YOUR OWN SIMPLY ENHANCES THE EXPERIENCE. Re: mineral spirits before epoxy
Posted by:
Ken Brown 2
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Date: September 16, 2019 03:28PM
Wow, ok, good thing I asked.
I do have a blank I want to strip down and start over with. Would it be ok to use the mineral spirts on that after I take off the excess epoxy? Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 09/16/2019 03:36PM by Ken Brown 2. Re: mineral spirits before epoxy
Posted by:
John DeMartini
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Date: September 16, 2019 04:54PM
Once you get to the CP point no further cleaning should be necessary.
As for the project blank I would not use mineral spirits for any of the operations. If you want to use solvent I would use any of the following, Xylene, Acetone, Ethyl-methyl alcohols. These solvents can be hazardous, so you have to use them sparingly with great care in ventilated areas and wear protective equipment ( gloves and eye shields). John Re: mineral spirits before epoxy
Posted by:
Phil Erickson
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Date: September 16, 2019 05:44PM
Mineral spirits and anything to do with rod building is prescription for a disaster! If you need a solvent for some purpose use Acetone or DNA, even then be sure you really need it! Re: mineral spirits before epoxy
Posted by:
roger wilson
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Date: September 16, 2019 06:14PM
10-4 on Phil's comments.
Rod building and mineral spirits can not even be in the same world, much less the same room. NEVER NEVER. If I happen to see a bit of dust or similar, I will use low tack blue painters tape to tack off the wraps before another coat of finish or anything else. No solvents at all after the blank has been initially cleaned. Take care Re: mineral spirits before epoxy
Posted by:
Mark Talmo
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Date: September 16, 2019 07:13PM
10X on Phil and Roger’s comments (and the others for that matter). Within rodbuilding, mineral spirits (and the like) are only a half-step better than silicone! As for Xylene; it is really nasty poo poo and I avoid it if at all possible. Mark Talmo FISHING IS NOT AN ESCAPE FROM LIFE BUT RATHER A DEEPER IMMERSION INTO IT!!! BUILDING YOUR OWN SIMPLY ENHANCES THE EXPERIENCE. Re: mineral spirits before epoxy
Posted by:
Tom Kirkman
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Date: September 16, 2019 08:06PM
The main thing to be taken away here, is that unless you've done something extreme, there is no need for a "final wipe down" on rod building components. I remain convinced that so many problems in rod building are caused by rod builders who, for some reason, decide to do things that simply aren't necessary. Try doing less.
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Posted by:
Lynn Behler
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Date: September 16, 2019 08:20PM
Here here Tom. I agree with that. Use Citri-Strip to remove old finish from blank. Re: mineral spirits before epoxy
Posted by:
Ken Brown 2
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Date: September 17, 2019 09:48AM
Thanks for all the response. I thought for sure I read here previously that mineral spirits was ok. That is appearently NOT the case. Re: mineral spirits before epoxy
Posted by:
Phil Ewanicki
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Date: September 17, 2019 07:13PM
How about turpentine? Re: mineral spirits before epoxy
Posted by:
Lynn Behler
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Date: September 17, 2019 07:39PM
Don't forget grain alcohol. No residue Re: mineral spirits before epoxy
Posted by:
Mark Talmo
(71.147.59.---)
Date: September 17, 2019 07:45PM
Phil Ew.
Are you serious about turpentine? Mark Talmo FISHING IS NOT AN ESCAPE FROM LIFE BUT RATHER A DEEPER IMMERSION INTO IT!!! BUILDING YOUR OWN SIMPLY ENHANCES THE EXPERIENCE. Re: mineral spirits before epoxy
Posted by:
roger wilson
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Date: September 18, 2019 10:20AM
Ken and others:
When wondering about a particular wipe down for a rod or spot - try an experiment before you do the task. Mix up a small batch of finishing epoxy and then, put a small amount of the liquid that you plan to use on the rod blank or components. In a glass jar so that you can see what is happening, mix the liquid in with the finishing epoxy and then let it sit for 24 hours and see how it looks. Essentially you are looking for a solvent or a liquid that will mix with and become part of the new chemical composition. At the end of the time, you want to see 0 separation of the new liquid and the finishing epoxy in the final product. If there are bubble or areas where the introduced liquid does not blend seamlessly with the finishing epoxy, you want to keep that liquid away from any rod building. By only using a product that will in fact become part of the rod finish will allow you the - builder - to work easily, and effortlessly for a perfect finish every time. ------------------ Having said that -- Rule #1 to rule # 1,000 --- DO NOT put any liquids or solvents of any kind on a rod blank, once you have begun to build on the blank. Liquids and solvents by their very nature - simply lead to problems. Avoid the problems by avoiding any liquid to contact the blank - once the build has started. Be safe Re: mineral spirits before epoxy
Posted by:
Phil Ewanicki
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Date: September 18, 2019 11:48AM
SOMEBODY had to ask, and the suspense was killing me. Sorry, only registered users may post in this forum.
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