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rod ferrules
Posted by: Phil Ewanicki (72.239.229.---)
Date: September 11, 2019 11:12AM

Spigot ferrule blanks seem to have been eclipsed by tip-over ferrules. Is this the result of performance, durability, cosmetics, ease of production (cost), or some other factor?

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Re: rod ferrules
Posted by: ben belote (---.zoominternet.net)
Date: September 11, 2019 12:00PM

i would say performance..they look like a lower friction connection..

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Re: rod ferrules
Posted by: Spencer Phipps (172.58.45.---)
Date: September 11, 2019 12:46PM

I've fished many of both, I seen no real difference though most don't understand the spigot ferrule gap till its explained to them. I own two rods with the integrated ferrule in the lower section and the male section on the tip



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Re: rod ferrules
Posted by: Tom Kirkman (Moderator)
Date: September 11, 2019 01:06PM

The spigot ferrule is more labor intensive to make and does not offer quite the same across the join smoothness as a good integral tip-over-butt ferrule does.

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Re: rod ferrules
Posted by: Mark Talmo (71.147.59.---)
Date: September 11, 2019 05:59PM

Phil,
I suspect a little of all you mentioned are factors, with “ease of production (cost)” at the top of the list. It is safe to say the Tip-Over-Butt ferrule is here to stay, and with good reason; it has been used and accepted since the early 1970s, affords a clean appearance, adequately strong and is easier, quicker and less expensive to produce. When in need of purchasing a multi-piece blank or rod, a TOB is hard to beat.
Unfortunately, when needing to build a multi-piece rod from a single-piece blank, such as a vintage blank, it is virtually impossible to use the TOB system. In such a case, the builder if left with four options; a metal male/female ferrule, an internal spigot, an external sleeve, or a CARL ferrule.
As Tom mentioned, attempting to make a spigot from scratch must be hugely time consuming, and I cannot imagine the taper of the final product being absolutely perfect. I would not even attempt it. BUT, if an identical, sister, donor blank is available, spigots can be cut from it. Due to those spigots being smaller in diameter though, they will obviously be more prone to breakage, hence the need to never bend the rod more than 90*, with less being best. I have built two, 6-piece, 7ft pac rods using sister-blank spigots where I could not utilize a CARL ferrule due to that many sleeves interfering with guide placement. Those customers must have paid attention to the 90* rule as both are still enjoying their rods.

Mark Talmo
FISHING IS NOT AN ESCAPE FROM LIFE BUT RATHER A DEEPER IMMERSION INTO IT!!!

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Re: rod ferrules
Posted by: Phil Erickson (---.dsl.pltn13.sbcglobal.net)
Date: September 14, 2019 04:34PM

The production spigot ferrules I'm familiar with, have solid male spigot not a tube. This especially true of the older fiberglass rods made by Winston and later by Tom Morgan.

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