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Relationship between guides and reel size
Posted by:
Richard Giovelli
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Date: November 20, 2017 03:00AM
When the subject of what reel size to match up with a particular rod comes up,it seems that I never get a definite answer. It’s always any different opinions. For example,I just picked up a Team Daiwa Surf Rod 10ft K guides,,and it’s super light,so of course I would love to have a really light reel on it. Obviously,the smaller the reel,the smaller spool diameter,,so what happens when you put too small a reel on a rod? I’m very confused on how you match things up. Re: Relationship between guides and reel size
Posted by:
Tom Kirkman
(Moderator)
Date: November 20, 2017 08:08AM
I would try to choose the reel size that has adequate line capacity for what you're going to be fishing for. And keep in mind that as the line level drops on the spool, at least a couple things happen - casting distance is reduced and drag amount increases. So typically you'll want a reel large enough that your casts don't reduce line level on the spool by more than a little bit, nor do you continually stay deep into the spool when fighting a fish.
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Posted by:
herb canter
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Date: November 20, 2017 08:53AM
For a 10 foot surf rod i like reels in the 18-22 oz range for balance and the reels are typically in the 5500- 6500 in the Penn reel sizes and 5000-8000 sizes if you prefer Shimano . These size reels have more line capacity than any surfcaster will ever need especially if using braid and are exceptionally popular and work well with the overwhelming majority of surf rods from 9-11.5 feet . Re: Relationship between guides and reel size
Posted by:
Richard Giovelli
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Date: November 20, 2017 12:03PM
herb canter Wrote:
------------------------------------------------------- > For a 10 foot surf rod i like reels in the 18-22 > oz range for balance and the reels are typically > in the 5500- 6500 in the Penn reel sizes and > 5000-8000 sizes if you prefer Shimano . These > size reels have more line capacity than any > surfcaster will ever need especially if using > braid and are exceptionally popular and work well > with the overwhelming majority of surf rods from > 9-11.5 feet . Well I was originally thinking of a Slammer 5500,but when I had it in my hands and felt how heavy it is ( 22.4) oz,,it just felt so out of place on the rod.. I then looked at the Saragosa 6000 which is (16.2)oz,,,it was a huge difference. Re: Relationship between guides and reel size
Posted by:
Jim Ising
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Date: November 20, 2017 12:09PM
Richard, I think maybe the reason you feel there are a lot of opinions on this subject is because we are talking about a "system" of components that work together. All the variables have to work together for the wow factor to kick in on the finished rod. The reel spool size, reel height off the blank and line choice will influence the component selection and position. A change in any of these variables can have an effect on performance, so logically, there are a lot of opinions. Re: Relationship between guides and reel size
Posted by:
herb canter
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Date: November 20, 2017 02:15PM
The Penns will be heavier than Shimano's of equal size mainly because the Penns have a metal rotor and body where most shimano's have a graphite side plate and rotor which doesn't take away from their quality because i believe the Shimano's typically have the better internals . The Gosa is a great reel and a great fit for that specific rod , it's a stellar choice for the salt due to the simplicity of it's design.
Most Shimano's have a lot more parts but Shimano kept the Gosa simple & maintenance is absolute cake. Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 11/20/2017 02:16PM by herb canter. Re: Relationship between guides and reel size
Posted by:
Richard Giovelli
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Date: November 20, 2017 02:40PM
herb canter Wrote:
------------------------------------------------------- > The Penns will be heavier than Shimano's of equal > size mainly because the Penns have a metal rotor > and body where most shimano's have a graphite side > plate and rotor which doesn't take away from their > quality because i believe the Shimano's typically > have the better internals . The Gosa is a great > reel and a great fit for that specific rod , it's > a stellar choice for the salt due to the > simplicity of it's design. > > Most Shimano's have a lot more parts but Shimano > kept the Gosa simple & maintenance is absolute > cake. Well that certainly is a ringing endorsement! I am leaning towards it... Also,,the Daiwa rod I mentioned has one thing I do not like..the absence of a rubber butt cap..so my next question is,,can I buy one to fit over the butt end and maybe epoxy it on? Re: Relationship between guides and reel size
Posted by:
Bill Sidney
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Date: November 20, 2017 03:12PM
this is your ROD an you can do any thing you want, there are no ROD COPS out there to wright a ticket , William Sidney AK Re: Relationship between guides and reel size
Posted by:
Richard Giovelli
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Date: November 20, 2017 03:35PM
Bill Sidney Wrote:
------------------------------------------------------- > this is your ROD an you can do any thing you want, > there are no ROD COPS out there to wright a > ticket , Well yes,I realize that ,but I don’t know the proper way to do it,,or where is best to get the cap,or how to measure for it etc... Re: Relationship between guides and reel size
Posted by:
herb canter
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Date: November 20, 2017 05:31PM
If all your concerned about is where to purchase a buttcap and which one will fit my rod your in excellent shape , check out the sponsors to the left of the page . I never use glue for a buttcap , measure the diameter at the end of the rod and make a note of it then look for a buttcap that has an inner diameter that is a couple mill smaller and you will get a snug fit.
Hardware stores even Home Depot and the like will have rubber end caps that many find ideal to use as a buttcap instead of buying one from an online merchant . Re: Relationship between guides and reel size
Posted by:
Richard Giovelli
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Date: November 20, 2017 05:43PM
herb canter Wrote:
------------------------------------------------------- > If all your concerned about is where to purchase a > buttcap and which one will fit my rod your in > excellent shape , check out the sponsors to the > left of the page . I never use glue for a buttcap > , measure the diameter at the end of the rod and > make a note of it then look for a buttcap that has > an inner diameter that is a couple mill smaller > and you will get a snug fit. > > Hardware stores even Home Depot and the like will > have rubber end caps that many find ideal to use > as a buttcap instead of buying one from an online > merchant . So you just rely on a tight fit and not glue,,ok that makes sense,in case you have to replace it in future. Re: Relationship between guides and reel size
Posted by:
herb canter
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Date: November 20, 2017 07:11PM
Well, thats the way i have always dealt with buttcaps , i have never had a buttcap even move let alone pop off the end of a rod , the fit is extremely snug . You have to really pull and twist to get it to come off and thats without any glue. Re: Relationship between guides and reel size
Posted by:
Richard Giovelli
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Date: November 20, 2017 08:46PM
herb canter Wrote:
------------------------------------------------------- > Well, thats the way i have always dealt with > buttcaps , i have never had a buttcap even move > let alone pop off the end of a rod , the fit is > extremely snug . You have to really pull and > twist to get it to come off and thats without any > glue. Looking into the American Tackle Caps .. Re: Relationship between guides and reel size
Posted by:
herb canter
(70.40.106.---)
Date: November 20, 2017 08:59PM
Your rod is a Daiwa , an American buttcap is risky , Fuji would be a safer bet .
Yes, i'm kidding , good luck to you and enjoy your holiday. Re: Relationship between guides and reel size
Posted by:
Richard Giovelli
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Date: November 20, 2017 10:55PM
herb canter Wrote:
------------------------------------------------------- > Your rod is a Daiwa , an American buttcap is risky > , Fuji would be a safer bet . > > > > > > > Yes, i'm kidding , good luck to you and enjoy your > holiday. Ya had me going there,,I was desperately trying to figure out why it would matter! Sorry, only registered users may post in this forum.
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