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Guide and tip size for 30lb mono to 50lb braid knot?
Posted by: Timothy O'Neill (---.nycap.res.rr.com)
Date: August 04, 2014 10:48AM

Hello,

I am building a heavy surf spinning rod that will be used with 50 lb braid knotted to 30 or 40 lb mono. The knot must be able to pass through guides without issue. I am guessing someone here has experience with this.

I am considering 12 or 16 tip and running guides. Is that going to work?


Thank you,

Tim

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Re: Guide and tip size for 30lb mono to 50lb braid knot?
Posted by: Jim Gamble (---.res.bhn.net)
Date: August 04, 2014 11:50AM

10mm will work just fine. My tarpon builds feature 10mm top and running guides with 65# braid and 50# leader, no issue whatsoever.

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Re: Guide and tip size for 30lb mono to 50lb braid knot?
Posted by: Timothy O'Neill (---.nycap.res.rr.com)
Date: August 04, 2014 11:55AM

Thank you Jim.

That is much better having to use a 16!

Tim

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Re: Guide and tip size for 30lb mono to 50lb braid knot?
Posted by: Phil Ewanicki (---.res.bhn.net)
Date: August 04, 2014 02:10PM

I would trust my eyes before the internet. I would tie my favorite knot joining super braid to mono; triple surgeon, improved barrel knot, double-uni, or my personal favorite, a slim beauty, and then measure its diameter. I would use this knot's diameter to establish the inside diameter of the smallest guide for the rod I was building. If I got it wrong I would have only myself to blame.

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Re: Guide and tip size for 30lb mono to 50lb braid knot?
Posted by: Phil Ewanicki (---.res.bhn.net)
Date: August 04, 2014 02:10PM

I would trust my eyes before the internet. I would tie my favorite knot joining super braid to mono; triple surgeon, improved barrel knot, double-uni, or my personal favorite, a slim beauty, and then measure its diameter. I would use this knot's diameter to establish the inside diameter of the smallest guide for the rod I was building. If I got it wrong I would have only myself to blame.

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Re: Guide and tip size for 30lb mono to 50lb braid knot?
Posted by: Jim Gamble (---.res.bhn.net)
Date: August 04, 2014 04:05PM

I can pass a connection of 65# braid and 50# mono through a 7mm guide without issue. A proper knot doesn't take up NEARLY the area that folks imagine it does. 100# test mono is 0.99 mm, 100# braid is 0.46 mm. Unless you plan to tie a Christmas bow, your intended line connections will VERY easily pass a 10 mm guide or top. They would actually pass an 8mm without issue, but I always allow extra for the sloppy knot boys.



Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 08/04/2014 04:06PM by Jim Gamble.

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Re: Guide and tip size for 30lb mono to 50lb braid knot?
Posted by: Michael Danek (---.adr02.mskg.mi.frontiernet.net)
Date: August 04, 2014 05:11PM

Agree with Phil. Stakes are too high not to prove it to yourself before applying the wrap and epoxy.

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