Hi guys,
When using light coloured threads such as white and yellow on carbon or black blanks is there a way to prime the blank 1st ?
Doing trim bands etc it's no problem but when using these colours for main / longer wraps regardless of how much CP is used it sometimes comes out a little patchy,

Any advice on this would be very much appreciated

Thanks

I would recommend using a color fast thread.

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Regards,

Todd

Regards,
Todd Vivian
Mud Hole Custom Tackle

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NCP (color fast thread) or prime the blank with flat white paint under the area you intend to cover with thread.

Thanks lads,
I use colour fast for just about all thread work I do, got a 950yds spool of gudebrod in yellow and it did work for a spigot wrap however as soon as it was over a guide the problems started, I did apply cp to the 'tunnel' at each side of the guide feet but still not great,
Ken is there a white paint you would suggest for this ?
95% of the rods I build here in the UK are beach rods and very rarely come in any other colours but black or carbon so I reckon the white paint would be the best idea

Thanks again

One trick I use is to paint the blank silver under the area of the wraps. This lets you get the translucent depth of the color with the silver giving it some pop, rather than the flat color of NCP thread.

maybe it would be easyer to get white blanks or paint the blank white ???

Bill - willierods.com

When a color bleeds through from below, part of the color is what shows through the thread itself, but more of the color is what shows through between the top threads.

Bleeding through a thread can be addressed by under-coloring in a similar color as the top thread (paint or NCP underwraps), use of NCP top thread, and/or use of color preserver.

Under-coloring showing through between threads can be addressed by proper thread tension, packing thread tightly against previous threads as you wind, and burnishing the surface of your thread bands once they are packed.

Paying particular attention to all of these factors will improve the brightness and quality of your thread work over dark blanks. With good technique and attention to detail, you can get a true white thread on a dark black blank with no perceptible bleed through.

The same principles can be used with other bright colors and will usually achieve even better results (as the white on black is probably the most challenging).

It will also help to use D thread NCP and a good coat of CP to be sure

Bill - willierods.com

Any flat latex paint will work - be careful (test) enamels I've had one brand "bubble up" when the epoxy was applied. --- I like the idea of a silver/metallic paint under but I've never tried it. When I want a lighter color to "pop" I wrap Robison-Anton silver metallic thread as a underwrap;use no CP; no epoxy between the metallic and the overwrap thread - the regular nylon will "candy" and look more like a tint than a thread wrap. Considering that you are building beach rods (what we call surf rods) the weight penalty for the underwrap will be minimal.

Use silver mirrored Mylar film. It can be applied with spray adhesive. It is fairly quick to do and VERY effective. No bleed through and the colors will explode off the blank. A lifetime supply (2' x 10' roll) will cost about $25.