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rod comparison
Posted by: Mark Warnke (---.oakharbor-wifi-1171.amplex.net)
Date: May 14, 2014 05:43AM

Hello,
I am a newbie and have a question concerning a couple rods I am looking at for a build. A few opinions would be helpful.

First is a Black Matrix......
Model Length Line Wt Pieces Action Tip Size Butt Dia. Blank Wt.
AMF908-5-B 9' 8 5 pc. Mod-Fast 5 .41 2.2


Next is a St. Croix
Fly, Bass/Salmon/Steelhead/Saltwater, 9' 8 4 4.5 0.385" 2.0

I don't know if I gave enough info but hopefully someone can shed some light on the subject.
Thanks
Mark

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Re: rod comparison
Posted by: roger wilson (---.hsd1.mn.comcast.net)
Date: May 14, 2014 10:41AM

Mark,
Both of these are fine blanks and make good rods.

What are your questions?

Be safe

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Re: rod comparison
Posted by: John E Powell (168.169.226.---)
Date: May 14, 2014 03:58PM

Mark, not a lot of info to go by, it certainly would be helpful if you could tell us how you want to use the finished rod. I don't think your asking us for a direct comparison between the two blanks are you?

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Re: rod comparison
Posted by: Russell Brunt (---.mia.bellsouth.net)
Date: May 14, 2014 04:28PM

Well, if you are asking me to pick from the two.....st. croix hands down....if money is no object. Of course you don't mention the model number. FWIW mudhole has a nice one on sale. If you need 4 pc take a look at 42F908 4-F. Nine weight, 4 pc, made from a blend of SC 2 and 4. Very nice blank but more rod than I think one would need for bass.....but they do have a 7 weight also:) Heck I use a 5 weight for bass and don't feel under gunned.

If a 2 pc is fine they have a 3F908 2 for like 20 bucks cheaper.

Russ in Hollywood, FL.

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Re: rod comparison
Posted by: Michal Rozycki (---.neoplus.adsl.tpnet.pl)
Date: May 14, 2014 04:33PM

As regards ATC Matrix blanks, I have built a rod on an 8' 4wt 3-piece Black Matrix blank and I absolutely adore it. However this does not mean that all other blanks from the Matrix series are cool (though they may well be!!!). Actually, if you use Green Matrix - it will be just as fine! ;-)))

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Re: rod comparison
Posted by: Mark Warnke (---.oakharbor-wifi-1171.amplex.net)
Date: May 14, 2014 05:46PM

Well thank you all for the help!
As for the St. Croix it is model # 4F908.4 at Get bit outdoors. For $115. I wasn't sure I could post other sites info here.
I have a St. Croix myself and love it, but this is for a customer and they are wondering if the St.Croix is worth so much more money.
I haven't built any matrix rods yet and wasn't sure how they were. The customer pointed the matrix blank out to me and they doe want it to be a 4 pc. at least.
easier for travel. I really appreciate the help ...this newbie needs all I can get.

Thanks
Mark

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Re: rod comparison
Posted by: bill boettcher (---.dyn.optonline.net)
Date: May 14, 2014 06:17PM

Check that again
I can only find a 4F908.4 and not for 115.00

Bill - willierods.com

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Re: rod comparison
Posted by: Russell Brunt (---.mia.bellsouth.net)
Date: May 14, 2014 06:36PM

You can find that matrix blank for $44.74. The only matrix I have felt were popping blanks in emerald green. I thought it was a nice blank. I confess to having a man crush for st. croix but I never felt their fly rods.

The quickline series would be between those ranges and are getting rave reviews.

Russ in Hollywood, FL.

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Re: rod comparison
Posted by: bill boettcher (---.dyn.optonline.net)
Date: May 14, 2014 06:52PM

depending on how the customer likes to cast a line What he has used and is using now
The softer casting - IMHO - would be the Matrix
The rod with more power in the butt and a faster casting action would be the St Croix

Bill - willierods.com

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Re: rod comparison
Posted by: Mark Warnke (---.oakharbor-wifi-1171.amplex.net)
Date: May 14, 2014 07:31PM

bill boettcher Wrote:
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> depending on how the customer likes to cast a line
> What he has used and is using now
> The softer casting - IMHO - would be the Matrix
> The rod with more power in the butt and a faster
> casting action would be the St Croix

Thanks Bill...he wants to use this rod mostly for King salmon and steelhead.
With a traditional fly rod setup. Until now he has only used the plunk and dunk setup
with a 10 ' 9 wt. 2pc rainshadow. He is just getting started in this addiction.
Thanks again!
Mark

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Re: rod comparison
Posted by: Jimmy Crain Jr (---.ph.ph.cox.net)
Date: May 14, 2014 11:28PM

Never been impressed with St. Croix fly rods. There ok but not that great. I would say they are a TFO trying to be a Sage. I would look at a Batson RX7 or Quickline by Pacbay. Both great blanks for the money and will satisfiy everyone.

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