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Spine/Spline finding
Posted by:
Josh Coburn
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Date: March 04, 2014 10:53AM
One more question. The rod I'm building is a 4 piece and I found the spine/spline on the 3 tip sections easy enough, but the but section is stiff enough that I'm having trouble finding the spine. Is it really that critical to find the spine on the butt section of the rod? If it matters the blank I'm using is a 10ft 5wt 4 piece MHX fly blank. I believe it is labeled a fast action but I haven't done any CCS stuff on it yet.
If it does make a difference in the finished rod, are there any tips for locating the spine by hand (I don't have any of the spine finder tools available) on stiff rod sections? Thanks, Josh Re: Spine/Spline finding
Posted by:
Robert A. Guist
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Date: March 04, 2014 11:04AM
Hello Josh.
The spine is no longer thought to be much of a factor in rod building, the method used mostly these days is the straightest axis, so I would not sweat it, it does not hurt to find the spine but it is really not needed. Tight Wraps. Bob, New Bern, NC. Re: Spine/Spline finding
Posted by:
roger wilson
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Date: March 04, 2014 12:17PM
Josh,
Just lay the blank on a flat surface and roll the blank. If you note any bends in the blank when you roll the blank,, make a decision if you want the bend in the up direction, or in the down direction. Then, for multi piece rods use the same direction for all pieces of the multi piece blank. Be safe Re: Spine/Spline finding
Posted by:
Bob Riggins
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Date: March 04, 2014 03:05PM
I don't worry much with the butt section. It is normally too stiff to make a difference and besides, a lot of it is covered by the grip anyway. I still spine my blanks unless there is a noticeable bend in the blank. Re: Spine/Spline finding
Posted by:
John E Powell
(168.169.226.---)
Date: March 04, 2014 03:28PM
Robert A. Guist Wrote:
------------------------------------------------------- > Hello Josh. > > The spine is no longer thought to be much of a > factor in rod building, the method used mostly > these days is the straightest axis, so I would not > sweat it, it does not hurt to find the spine but > it is really not needed. > > Tight Wraps. X2 Re: Spine/Spline finding
Posted by:
bill boettcher
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Date: March 04, 2014 03:43PM
I put a piece of tape in two places on the blank
Put it in my wrapper rollers turn it watching the tip When it is at it's high I mark that as the TOP or 0 degress Or if you have a long table you can roll it on it Bill - willierods.com Re: Spine/Spline finding
Posted by:
Josh Coburn
(---.byu.edu)
Date: March 04, 2014 04:26PM
Robert A. Guist Wrote:
------------------------------------------------------- > Hello Josh. > > The spine is no longer thought to be much of a > factor in rod building, the method used mostly > these days is the straightest axis, so I would not > sweat it, it does not hurt to find the spine but > it is really not needed. > > Tight Wraps. Interesting! Is there an easy explanation as to why chose the straightest axis vs the spine? I haven't seen much about that. Re: Spine/Spline finding
Posted by:
Phil Erickson
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Date: March 04, 2014 04:39PM
Josh, there is a good article regarding the rod spine and its irrelevance. Unhide your email and I will send you a copy, or email me for it. Re: Spine/Spline finding
Posted by:
bill boettcher
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Date: March 04, 2014 05:09PM
Josh
Do a searsh on this site on The Spine You will get so much to read about it Then you can make your own desition on weather you want to use it or not There was a post here a while back whare a builder was told that If he did not build acording to the Spine a spinning rod guided rod the guides would ( tend to go up from he 180 ) or lowest point they were at IMPOSIBLE Look at a Spiral wrap where the main guides are at 180 and hold the rod Upright Take a spinning rod and with a good fish on try to turn the guides and bring them UP Bill - willierods.com Re: Spine/Spline finding
Posted by:
Tom Kirkman
(Moderator)
Date: March 04, 2014 05:13PM
At least two such articles are in the online library here.
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Posted by:
bill boettcher
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Date: March 04, 2014 05:18PM
Another sourse of Quality Information Bill - willierods.com Re: Spine/Spline finding
Posted by:
Herb Ladenheim
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Date: March 04, 2014 06:15PM
Josh,
I spine all my fly rods. here is how I do it. 1. Spine the tip section (S4) by flexing and the spine is located when tot section jumps. Mark it with a grease pencil. 2. Spine the next section (S3). Mark it. 3. Assemble S4 and S3. Spine it again and adjust the spine mark on both if it changes. 4. Spine S2. Mark 5. Try to spine butt (S1). Mark if successful. 6 Assemble S1 and S2 and re-spine. Change spine marks if different. 7. Assemble all sections and check spine. If it changes - re mark the spine. When you assemble the sections there is a good chance the spine will change. So final test is to assemble all sections. Takes longer to explain than do. BTW - if after spinning a 4pc rod and it is crooked. Just rotate one section 180 degrees. You will still be spined with all sections assembled and it may straighten the blank. Herb Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 03/04/2014 06:19PM by Herb Ladenheim. Re: Spine/Spline finding
Posted by:
Phil Erickson
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Date: March 04, 2014 06:21PM
Tom, when I go to the Library, I do not see the "spine" article listed. I know it was there in the past. Re: Spine/Spline finding
Posted by:
Josh Coburn
(---.byu.edu)
Date: March 04, 2014 06:37PM
Tom,
Can you point me to the articles in the library? The only one I see is the "home-brew spine finder". I also only seem to see a category labeled "Most Recent Added" when I click on the library link with about 38 articles in it. Are there more articles than that? Maybe I need to learn to navigate this site better. Re: Spine/Spline finding
Posted by:
Josh Coburn
(---.byu.edu)
Date: March 04, 2014 06:39PM
Phil,
Thanks for that article! It was a really interesting read. Now I'm gonna have to go home and redo all my markings. Glad I asked around here first. :) Josh Re: Spine/Spline finding
Posted by:
Phil Ewanicki
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Date: March 04, 2014 07:01PM
The good news is you can buy spine-finding tools at a great discount these days. Re: Spine/Spline finding
Posted by:
Josh Coburn
(---.byu.edu)
Date: March 04, 2014 07:12PM
Tom,
That first one about blank strength settled my last question about building on the spine (although I suppose I've been doing it backwards cause I would mark the stiffest axis and build on that not the true spine). Looks like the difference is fairly negligible. Re: Spine/Spline finding
Posted by:
Steve Cox
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Date: March 06, 2014 12:34AM
The more you build and actually fish with your rods, the more you will find that there is just a plethora of things in rod building that have minimal to squat influence on the fish-ability of your rods! My humble opinion after many years! ....... I caught several nice walleye and bass on my father's fiberglass rod from the 50's, last year in Minn. Built the same way today, it would be considered a piece of $%#@! rod. And I used an old Johnson Century reel with 10 year old mono on it. It was just fine. I felt the strikes, set the hook and fought the fish. Don't get caught up splitting too many hairs in rod building. Time is too short. Build, fish and enjoy! Sorry, only registered users may post in this forum.
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