Which is stronger Mono or braid

Bill - willierods.com

They are equal if you have equal breaking strength.

Forget about the numbers on the reel of line.

Put the line between a scale and a fixed point and pull until the line breaks.

Then, find another line that has the identical breaking strength.

This is sort of like a Ford or Chevy question. Which is better? They both do the job, just select the one that works for you in your particular environment.

Be safe

I thought braid was a lot stronger them mono At the same 80 mono or 80 braid ??

breaking strength. is very subjective

Bill - willierods.com



Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 01/16/2014 09:34AM by bill boettcher.

Both are the same. The differences between the 2 are:
1) Diameter, Braid is thinner at the same breaking strain to mono.
2) Braid is lower memory than mono.
3) Braid has no stretch where as mono stretches to provide a better buffer against fish.
4) sinking speed, Braid will sink faster.
5) Abrasion resistance in braid is much lower than mono so rocks, shells etc. effect it more and it will break quicker over these types of ground.
Each has its own applications for instance I like to use mono mainline and a braid trace as it camouflages better on the bottom of the lake.

But to answer the main question as Roger said if both are the same breaking strain the are the same strength.

Andi Robb

I had asked because I saw this list and it made me wonder

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Bill - willierods.com

That is pretty confusing, I don't have a clue why they would have done that.

Todd

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Todd Vivian
Mud Hole Custom Tackle

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Thanks for that Todd

Now i don't feel like I am loosing it

Bill - willierods.com

Maybe it is more to do with line characteristics rather than line strength?

Chester

May your line be tight and your beverages be cold!

I guess if I wanted to know I could call them ??? Naa

Bill - willierods.com

That was all that I could figure but on a factory rod not a blank.

Todd

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Todd Vivian
Mud Hole Custom Tackle

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It is usually a reflection of line capacity for the reels that would pair with that blank.




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Why would 80 pound braid be stronger than 80 pound mono or an 80 pound test piece of wire?
Eight pounds is 80 pounds!!!

Now, the fact is most mono is way under rated and there has a lot of stupid advertising "My 10 pound line is stronger than your 10 pound line!"
So if that's true, then the stronger ten pound line isn't ten pound line it's mislabeled 12 or 15 or whatever! Well isn't it?

It is hard for manufactures to add 5 or 10 pounds of strength to braid because it is a weave and the number of fibers in each strand of the weave has to be the same...
Therefore the next increment might be 4 or 7 or 12 pounds of added strength. To keep the customers happy, the labels are printed to show round numbers, just like with mono.

When I buy braid I try to disregard the strength and look at the diameter. If I was happy using 20 pound mono for Musky, I can replace it with the same diameter braid (100lb) and I will have gained 5 times the line strength. On the other hand I can drop down to 80 pound braid and reduce my line's visibility etc. and still have overkill line strength wise.

It is often stated that mono is more abrasion resistant than braid...This is only really true if you compare two lines using the same pound test, however things change if you compare lines of the same diameter! Forty pound Power Pro is the same diameter as ten pound mono, now, which one do you think will survive the longest if you drag it through a Zebra Mussel or rocky environment?

Braid doesn't sink faster than mono. Throw them on the water and they both float. If you notice a difference in use, I suspect that it's diameter at work again.

Stretch is of no value in fishing line.
The so-called buffer effect is advertising @#$%& created by mono makers....There is an old saying in sales and promotion..."If you have a problem, BRAG about it!"
Before braid no mono line company ever mentioned stretch other than to call their line Low Stretch...All line had it and no one wanted to talk about it.
When braid arrived, mono makers had a problem, which they suddenly started describing as a benefit. Line stretch just makes it harder to set the hook and to keep the line tight while fighting a fish.
When I was using 20 pound mono in heavy cover I needed a TV show, eye-crossing hook set to compensate for the stretch in the line...Now , with braid, I just need to tighten the line and the hook pretty well sets itself...I can also use rods with more flex and that weigh less, cast farther and are easier to use for a full day. Crank-baits with small treble hooks need softer rods than baits with a large single hook regardless of the type of line being used.

The one place I like to use mono is for top-water baits. Braid is so limp that top-waters often run over the line and the hooks get fouled. I still use 20 pound mono on my top-water rod because the stiffness of the line keeps it away from the bait most of the time.

Andi
i think mono will sink faster than braid. that's why there is new gen of braid specialized to sink for carp fishing

Mike
X2 on that

Braid actually floats.
Braid usually overtests. Ratings are approximated to allow for reduction in strength when knotted.

hmmmmmmmmm, no braid I have used floats. This is why I use a mono top shot for top waters so the line will float.

Todd

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Todd Vivian
Mud Hole Custom Tackle

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Garry

Why would 80 pound braid be stronger than 80 pound mono

because it is made of Areo Space materials ?????

Was braid not ( invented ) to give a Stronger thinner line To be better then mono ???

I am just grabbing at straws here

Bill - willierods.com

Most braids float. Braid specifically designed to sink usually has a stand of Gore weaved in to make it more dense.




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I can see reasons why St. Croix would label their rods like that.

1) Many saltwater fisherman are going to use a mono top shot over braid. You don't want a big fish spooling you, snapping the braid, and making off with several hundred yards of costly line. So fish 65# braid on our rod with a 30# mono top shot.

2) Mono does stretch. Get even 50 yards of line out and it is hard to do a strong enough hookset to break even 20# mono. The knot end of that mono isn't seeing the same force that the tip end of the rod is. Sudden loads (think catching a stationary object while high speed trolling) are more likely to break the blank before the mono might break.

3) I have found most guys can tie a knot in mono and preserve a much greater percentage of the actual line strength. That isn't so easy with braid.

Russ in Hollywood, FL.

I have checked out many types of knots of mono to braid --braid to mono
A google search brings this up
Then again when you get into Reall heavy Fish Will they hold up ???
I would think a good glue would help Knots have been the main thing that does not hold with braid
i think I have read that braid tends to cut into itself

Bill - willierods.com

I agree that they are probably trying to tell you what reel to use but that is really confusing!
Braid sinks down faster than mono but both will sit on the surface due to surface tension. This is why most carp anglers after casting will "sink" the line by holding the rod tip under the surface for a minute or two.
The only reason both lines don't sink straight away is they usually have a weight ratio of less than 1 whereas waters is 1.
I was referring to the property of the line underwater.
Andi Robb