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Another finish problem
Posted by:
Mel Shimizu
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Date: December 02, 2013 01:10PM
Not sure what happened but this is the scenario. I was building 4 rods at a time and started with finish on all of them. But I ran out of the that finish on the last two rods that already had a coat of finish on it and had dried after 12 hours on the dryer. I then put Threadmaster lite as the final coat on top of the dried other finish. The finish looked ok when I applied it but soon after it started to develop small pimples on the surface and would not cure. It remained sticky and gooey and would not cure. Was this a reaction from using the two epoxies? Are they not compatible to a degree that they interact with one another? Unfortunately, I had to strip the two rods and start rewrapping again. I will never do that again! LOL Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 12/02/2013 01:42PM by Tom Kirkman. Re: Another finish problem
Posted by:
Scott Hovanec
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Date: December 02, 2013 01:46PM
Sounds to me like improper ratios or not mixed well enough. Re: Another finish problem
Posted by:
Ken Finch
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Date: December 02, 2013 01:48PM
I noted the name of the product you used before it got edited. To the best of my knowledge that is a repackaged product and it could have been contaminated when the seller poured it from one bottle to the other. No way to tell.But I can't really see two rod finish epoxies reacting with one another. I've put different epoxies over each other and never run into what you state above. I would look at something else as the cause of the problem. Re: Another finish problem
Posted by:
Mel Shimizu
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Date: December 02, 2013 02:14PM
I use the syringes for measuring the epoxies and I continued to use the Threadmaster on the rods after re-wrapping and it is curing properly. The the other finish was used on a number of rods until I ran out and it cured properly as well. All that I can come up with is that they have a compatibility issue between the two. Perhaps had the epoxy completely cured... ie longer period, this would not have happened? Anyways, I will never do this again unless the epoxy is completely cured. I mix for three minutes and I did change to new syringes when I changed epoxy. If I missed the ratio a bit, then it would be just a problem of tackiness which can be fixed with an additional coat. But this was a sticky mess with blotching and surface pimples that could not be fixed with an additional coat. So, I chose to re-wrap and not mess further with it. Edited 2 time(s). Last edit at 12/02/2013 02:40PM by Tom Kirkman. Re: Another finish problem
Posted by:
bill boettcher
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Date: December 02, 2013 02:41PM
I think Scott is correct on this I have done some nasty things but when that happened to me It was a improper mix Bill - willierods.com Re: Another finish problem
Posted by:
Mel Shimizu
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Date: December 02, 2013 04:07PM
I must admit that working on 4 rods at a time, things do get mixed up a bit. Seems that every one says that different brands of epoxies would not react adversely against one another. In my haste, I may have had some air bubbles in one of the syringes that may have caused a bad mix but when this has happened in the past, I was able to re-coat and fix the problem. But, why did I have this blotching and surface pimples this time? Can this be caused by improper mixing and to what degree? Thanks all for your answers. Re: Another finish problem
Posted by:
john backos
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Date: December 03, 2013 11:10AM
Do the pimples look like craters or bubbles? Is it possible you mixed two syringes of the same component (resin or hardener)? Can you post a photo? Re: Another finish problem
Posted by:
Mel Shimizu
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Date: December 03, 2013 03:55PM
It was more like craters. The rods have since been re-wrapped so no pictures. I don't want unpleasant reminders... lol
I am very confident that my methods preclude mixing two syringes of the same component. Re: Another finish problem
Posted by:
roger wilson
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Date: December 06, 2013 02:23PM
Mel,
I know that you have already stripped, cleaned, rewrapped and refinished your rod. But, to me, craters sound like some sort of contamination, like a silicone or something similar. Maybe a touch of oil from something or some where, a bit of silicone from some thread or similar or?? Be safe Sorry, only registered users may post in this forum.
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