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wrapping guide for tip top
Posted by: David Giudice (---.info)
Date: August 27, 2013 03:55PM

Do any of you have any tips for wrapping a single foot guide for a tiptop? I need to do this since I cannot find a tip top that has the ring size and tube dia. I need to match my last guide. No problem with using a guide for a tip top, I just cannot seem to get the hang of wrapping it on there. My wrapper will not support the very tip beyond about four or five inches from the tip so that end has no support and my thread tension bows the rod out to where it is impossible for me to work with it. Someone suggested I used a fly tying bobbin but I am not sure how you would start and stop the wrap with one. Suggestions?

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Re: wrapping guide for tip top
Posted by: bill boettcher (---.dyn.optonline.net)
Date: August 27, 2013 03:58PM

Ask here
I am sure there MAY be one out there

You can also go up a size in top ring size

Bill - willierods.com

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Re: wrapping guide for tip top
Posted by: Fred Trahan (---.br.br.cox.net)
Date: August 27, 2013 04:42PM

Earlier this year I found myself going old school, with phone book on floor as my tensioner for a 7'10" blank. A bobin would work well also, just wrap normally, nothing to it.

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Re: wrapping guide for tip top
Posted by: jim spooner (---.dyn.centurytel.net)
Date: August 27, 2013 05:53PM

First thing that I do is make sure that the very tip of the blank is not rounded. If it is, I sand it square with the blank. When I prep the guide (Fuji TLSG3.5), I bend the guide slightly forward to provide an angle more conducive to the line flow. Then I use tape to hold the guide in position with the ring slightly forward of the tip (the tip never extends past the guide). Because the tip is so flexible, I manipulate/control the tip when rolling with both hands while wrapping (the other end of the blank is supported). I wrap the thread as close to the tip as possible so as not to have the tread slip off the blank (I never use a locking wrap). After aligning and applying finish, I apply a very small dollop of finish to form a “bridge” between the guide and the tip. This is best done after the finish begins to set and is slightly thicker to prevent wicking down to the wrap.

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Re: wrapping guide for tip top
Posted by: Andy Stromsness (199.67.138.---)
Date: August 28, 2013 09:38AM

On ice rods I have found that wrapping down the blank for the tip top helps as well.

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Re: wrapping guide for tip top
Posted by: Terry Turner (---.hsd1.or.comcast.net)
Date: August 28, 2013 10:38AM

A fly tying bobbin works really well for this.

Make sure to use a security wrap on the guide to prevent pulling out. Article in the library for this if you haven't used it.

Terry

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Re: wrapping guide for tip top
Posted by: roger wilson (---.hsd1.mn.comcast.net)
Date: August 28, 2013 12:38PM

It is easy to make a support for your flexible tip.
I just use a piece of cutting board for a base. Then, I use a piece of solid fiberglass rod blank for the upright. I drill a hole in the base to support the vertical blank and use a dremel grinder to grind a slot in the end of the blank to support the tip.

Then, you can just take a piece of thread in your hand, and wrap on the guide, No need for a fly tying bobbin or wrapper or anything else, Just hold the thread in your fingers and use your fingers to control the tension and wrap the guide on the end. Pretty easy and very simple.

Another thing that helps is to wrap the guide about a 1/4 inch from the end of the rod, and then when complete, slip the guide down to the tip. Typically the tip is fairly constant diameter for the first several inches, so usually not an issue with thread tension on the guide.
By having the guide up the blank a bit, it keeps your wraps from slipping off the end of the blank when wrapping.

Be safe

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Re: wrapping guide for tip top
Posted by: chip burdick (---.sub-70-215-7.myvzw.com)
Date: August 29, 2013 08:49AM

I build ice rids and do this a lot. I use my left hand to support rod a right for guiding wrap. Go slow. This is where a good tensioner pays for itself.

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