I am building a 7' 6" heavy flippin stick with micro guides and I am using a size 10 for the butt guide then 5.5 and 4.5 runners for guides. On the butt guide it seems like the line rides high to were there is an angle were the line hits the top of the guide. I have moved the butt guide further from the reel out to about 27 inches and that helped. Is this angle where the line touches the guide a concern? Also it seems that I will have to go with 2 or 3 extra guides to keep the line off fo the blank while under pressure fpr a total of 10 - 11 giudes. Is this typical when using micro guides?

Yes, you'll likely have to use a few more guides when using such low, close the blank guide types. But because they are so terribly light, you won't pay much of a penalty, if any, for using a couple or three extra.

I assume you mean the height of the reel at full spool put the line against the top inside edge of the butt guide? Unless it's a very acute angle it's not really of any concern. You can reduce it, of course, by using a higher frame or larger ring guide.

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Another case of my missing something everyone else seems to get. Heavy flippin stick with micros? What are the advantages of micros on a heavy flippin stick where the casts are usually less than a boat length? And they aren't usually even casts? Don't get me wrong, I'd just like to know. thanks, Mick

This is a flippin stick blank that will only be used for casting for northern pike.

lighter rod= less fatigue over the course of the day.

less fatigue over the course of the day= better concentration

balance point further back = increased bite detection

increased bite detection= more money in pocket when competing

Why use any guide that is larger or heavier than it needs to be? What could possibly be the benefit to that?

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Got it, thanks. I guess I would like to be able to run a knot through the guides of both a pike rod and a flippin stick, but different strokes. . .

As has been posted many times before -
Use the guide type, style and brand that works for YOUR needs, and YOUR application.

On a flipping stick, it you tape on 8 conventional guides that are in your comfort zone and tape on 12 micro guides that are smaller - it is up to you to decide if the micro guides are for you and for your particular application.

Just because micro guides may suit one fisherman and his particular needs, does not mean that that style guide is correct for your particular rod, and the way that it is going to be used.

There are many many reasons to put a particular guide on a rod besides the absolute weight of the guide.

For example, when you are talking about heavy lines, snaps and swivels on terminal tackle that often get pulled through the tip and or guides of the rod - then micros may be the very worst thing to put on a rod.

Also, consider the person or persons that are likely to use the rod. Does a particular guide train work for the person that is going to be using the rod.

A willow stick with a cotton cord tied on the end has caught many fish over the years.
As have has a plain line with a nail and a hook on the end caught many many fish over the years.

The selection of a guide train for a particular fishing rod is just another of the many many variations that are part of the occupation called "Rod Building"

There is no "right, or Wrong" guide. There are rods and there are guides, grips, reel seats and tips. Use the one, or the combination of items that are "right" for the intended application.

Good luck
Roger