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How did my guide move after I epoxied it?
Posted by: Billy Vivona (---.nycmny.fios.verizon.net)
Date: June 07, 2012 01:17PM

Wrap the guides. Spend 15 minutes making sure they are straight. Walk away, come back in teh morning, spend 15 more minutes straightening them out again. Apply 3 coats of finish, take the rod out and...HOW IS THERE A GUIDE OUT OF ALIGNMENT!!! Well, this just happened to me with 2 rods 5 guides on each one. The only good thing is I figured out how....

I wait to put finish on rods several at a time. After I finished wrapping/straightening the guides, I put them in a corner. Well apparantly I must have bumped kicked banged into teh rods several times, because thisis how the guides all got out of alignment. One of them the guides were out of alignment in both directions, lol. Just what I needed to do today, was to cut off and rewrap guideson rods which I put the final coat of epoxy on last night. Thumbs up!

new step to teh process...quareuple check teh guides right before putting epoxy on!

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Re: How did my guide move after I epoxied it?
Posted by: Capt Neil Faulkner (---.dyn.optonline.net)
Date: June 07, 2012 01:20PM

Hi Billy,

I feel your pain!

I have not forgotten about the blanks. Between family and rod building I am too darn busy. Would be nice to go fishing, ha, ha!

Take care my friend!

Capt Neil Faulkner

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Re: How did my guide move after I epoxied it?
Posted by: Robert A. Guist (---.nmci.navy.mil)
Date: June 07, 2012 02:22PM

Hello Billy

Every time right before putting them on the dryer(where I put the epoxy on) I check them.

Keep Em Straight!

Bob,

New Bern, NC.

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Re: How did my guide move after I epoxied it?
Posted by: Ken Preston (---.hsd1.md.comcast.net)
Date: June 07, 2012 02:35PM

Whole new meaning to "snake guides" LOL

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Re: How did my guide move after I epoxied it?
Posted by: Billy Vivona (---.nycmny.fios.verizon.net)
Date: June 07, 2012 02:39PM

It was a Spiral wrap without the piral.

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Re: How did my guide move after I epoxied it?
Posted by: mike brune (---.fidnet.com)
Date: June 07, 2012 03:45PM

Hi Billy

I hate to rewrap guides I wrap a few and then either put on a coat of perma gloss or color lock. They always want to move if I try to wrap to many or come loose at the ends.

Mike
Mikes Custom Fly Rods

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Re: How did my guide move after I epoxied it?
Posted by: Duane Richards (---.hfc.comcastbusiness.net)
Date: June 07, 2012 04:11PM

Cheating:

If not too far out, you can warm up the fresh epoxy, shift the guide with thumb, add another coat of epoxy and roll on like it never even happened :-)

I'm NOT suggesting this as a "standard" to do, but it can work.

DR



Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 06/07/2012 04:12PM by Duane Richards.

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Re: How did my guide move after I epoxied it?
Posted by: bill boettcher (---.dyn.optonline.net)
Date: June 07, 2012 04:22PM

Maybe hooks on the sealing to hang them Unless your head hits them - They should be good

Find a spot mark it - To Be Finished

Unlike a carpenter - Check three times then finish Thought I was the only dummy to put them in the corner
I can not put hooks in the living room ceiling

Bill - willierods.com

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Re: How did my guide move after I epoxied it?
Posted by: Col Chaseling (---.lnse4.ken.bigpond.net.au)
Date: June 07, 2012 04:34PM

Hi Billy,
That is a real PITA. Happened to me once and I now do what Bob does, CHECK just before the epoxy goes on. I've got no idea how mine happened as after they got straightened I put a few coats of cp on and checked again. The rod never got bumped and the cp should hold them. Another lesson learnt the hard way.

ESFNEM Col
Port Kembla, NSW
Australia

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Re: How did my guide move after I epoxied it?
Posted by: lorenzo tellez (---.hsd1.il.comcast.net)
Date: June 07, 2012 05:13PM

Thats a bummer! I had to reepoxy all the guides on one rod when someone went into my room and turn the light switch off accidently, and that was the switch that controled the rod lathe, talk about sagging epoxy! Lol! I guess checking twice maybe thrice is , is'nt a bad idea.U all have a good one!

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Re: How did my guide move after I epoxied it?
Posted by: bill boettcher (---.dyn.optonline.net)
Date: June 07, 2012 05:24PM

PUT A LOCK ON THE DOOR

Bill - willierods.com

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Re: How did my guide move after I epoxied it?
Posted by: Bill Eshelman (---.neo.res.rr.com)
Date: June 07, 2012 07:41PM

...HOW IS THERE A GUIDE OUT OF ALIGNMENT!!! Well, this just happened to me with 2 rods 5 guides on each one. The only good thing is I figured out how....


Cheap wine!!

Drink it AFTER epoxy.

Bill

Ohio Rod Builders

Canton, Ohio

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Re: How did my guide move after I epoxied it?
Posted by: lorenzo tellez (---.hsd1.il.comcast.net)
Date: June 07, 2012 08:04PM

I do have a lock on the door, it was just that one time I did'nt lock it, lesson learned!

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Re: How did my guide move after I epoxied it?
Posted by: Raymond Adams (---.hsd1.ca.comcast.net)
Date: June 08, 2012 01:31AM

Put rods in the corner!
When you put rods in the corner the guides get knocked out of alignment.
When the guides get knocked you epoxy crooked guides.
When you epoxy crooked guides you post on FaceBook or RBO
When you post on FaceBook or RBO your not watching Direct TV.
When you don't watch Direct TV you build better rods cuz you work more at it.
Put rods in the corner and build BETTER rods!

LOL

Raymond Adams
Eventually, all things merge, and a river runs through it..

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Re: How did my guide move after I epoxied it?
Posted by: Billy Vivona (---.nycmny.fios.verizon.net)
Date: June 08, 2012 07:10AM

Don't be a Billy Vivona

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Re: How did my guide move after I epoxied it?
Posted by: roger wilson (---.hsd1.mn.comcast.net)
Date: June 08, 2012 08:10AM

I would guess that nearly everyone who has built more than a few dozen rods has had a rod turn up with a finished guide that is out of alignment and has needed to be cut off and re wrapped.

To put it simply - stuff happens.

Also the case of where I had put out a bunch of rods in a given month, when I receive a call from an excellent client who stated that they had received their last excellent rod, with one of the guides not coated. It was taken care of, but as the saying goes - stuff happens.

I think that we all have stories of things that have happened for sometimes the most peculiar reasons.

All that I can suggest, as others have is to check, recheck, and then check again. Both before during and after wrapping, finishing and then shipping.

Take care
Roger

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Re: How did my guide move after I epoxied it?
Posted by: John DeMartini (---.siemens.com)
Date: June 08, 2012 09:40AM

May be the guides are being wrapped too loose. The wrapps should be snug enough that the guide takes a some effort to move when making the final alignment. Addition of color preserative usually adds more stiffiness to guide. Guides prepared this way should be able to withstand some minor abuse and stay in alignment, But as Bill stated, be like a carpenter and check three times before adding the finish.

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Re: How did my guide move after I epoxied it?
Posted by: Billy Vivona (---.nycmny.fios.verizon.net)
Date: June 08, 2012 04:36PM

These were on Bushido & Hercules jigging rods, with Fuji K guides. I double wrapped the guides on the Hercules rod. I don't use CP on guide wraps. I guess I need to be more careful how I treat rods, lol.

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Re: How did my guide move after I epoxied it?
Posted by: Mick McComesky (---.dsl.stlsmo.swbell.net)
Date: June 09, 2012 07:09AM

Nice to see that the master still has issues... LOL Billy:)

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Re: How did my guide move after I epoxied it?
Posted by: Col Chaseling (---.lns14.cht.bigpond.net.au)
Date: June 09, 2012 08:05AM

Hi Mick,
Everyone has issues occasionally. Those that say they don't are usually telling fibs.

ESFNEM Col
Port Kembla, NSW
Australia

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