I have been going back doing searches and keep reading that the fuji TFST are nice and light and weigh less than all other tips beside the recoil. I have read several places that the TSFT's weigh around .180-.200g for a 5.5 ring., .200g for a 6 ring. Then I read reports of the recoil small tips weighing .190g. I had a rod I built a few years ago with a recoil that was twisting and needed epoxied back on so I popped it off and weighed it at .210g.

Why I ask is I hate the looks of the recoil tips but I kept reading that the fuji's TFST tips would reduce performance so I have been going with the recoils on my last couple builds. Some people said they could feel the fuji's slowing the response down. How could this be as they weigh very close to the same?

Am I wrong about the weight of the TFST's? I don't have any to weigh at the moment.. IS there something I am missing.

Thanks,
Bob

I think you need to look at the practical difference, rather than just the difference. More weight, particularly on or near the tip, will indeed slow down the speed of the rod. But how much depends on how much weight we're talking. A miniscule difference has a miniscule effect.

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I do agree but if my measurement was correct, and everyone else were correct then there really isn't that much difference if any in weight.

You said, "I had a rod I built a few years ago with a recoil that was twisting and needed epoxied back on so I popped it off and weighed it at .210g".

Could the small difference in weight be due to some epoxy still left inside the recoil tip after you removed it?

Russ in Hollywood, FL.

Your Text: "but I kept reading that the fuji's TFST tips would reduce performance"

What kind of a rod are you referencing - blank, technique, rest of guides - what performance reductions?

Where are you reading that type of information?

I would think the "sensitivity" of the person putting that text in print would surpass the talents of custom builders who use this forum..

Bob,
I think that all of the "weight watchers" need to take a day off and go fishing.

Forget about a grain here and there. Rather, do the best job that you can with the materials that order for your rods and enjoy the results of your wonderful work.

Catch a big one.

Roger

Roger, I'm with you on this one! This weight thing appears to be going beyond practical and over the top!

Russ,
It very well could have some epoxy in it but not much. When I built this rod I used the tip top glue stick things.

Bill,
Mostly it was reading pages of searches from the last 5 years on this site. I was reading on mostly mid to lighter weight fly rods which is mostly what I build.

thanks,
Bob

Bob, IMHO I'd stick with the hot melt glue stick. Even more so in light of what you are building. Tips break and a bic lighter and a few spare ones in the tackle box will save the day. Five minute epoxy makes them hard to remove. It can be done safely on heavy salt water rods. I wouldn't count on it on a fly rod and it wouldn't be nice to have to cut the end of the rod every time a tip got damaged.

The only time I have the tips move is if they are left in a hot car and the tip is pressing against something. It is a two second fix. If you still feel the need for something stronger look at the hot melt glue for archery.

Russ in Hollywood, FL.

Fly rod disqualifies my responses - most of the "buzz" on this forum about sensitivity and weight are related to fast action bait casting rods with tip tube sizes ranging from 4.5 to 7.0 with 5.0 or smaller rings. The responsiveness of rods are different and tip size and weight is only one factor. Comments from someone who builds flip sticks for bass fishermen on fish extraction blanks simply do not apply to your post. Common sense says to keep the weight on the tip to a minimum - I would like to meet the gentleman who says he can detect the in hand the weigh differences you note.

Thanks for the topic.

I did notice the Recoil tip I removed and weighed had a dimple on the side instead of the center, The tip is about 3-4 years old maybe it is the stainless version. I am going to ordered both and weigh them and also try them on the same rod.

Thanks,
Bob