I
nternet gathering place for custom rod builders
  • Custom Rod Builders - This message board is provided for your use by the sponsors listed on the left side of the page. Feel free to post any question, answers or topics related in any way to custom building. When purchasing products please remember those who sponsor this board.

  • Manufacturers and Vendors - Only board sponsors are permitted and encouraged to promote and advertise products on the board. You may become a sponsor for a nominal fee. It is the sponsor fees that pay for this message board.

  • Rules - Rod building is a decent and rewarding craft. Those who participate in it are assumed to be civilized individuals who are kind and considerate in their dealings with others. Please respond to others in the same fashion in which you would like to be responded to. Registration IS NOW required in order to post. You must include your actual First and Last name and a correct email address when registering or posting. Posts which are inflammatory, insulting, or that fail to include a proper name and email address will be removed and the persons responsible will be barred from further participation.

    Registration is now required in order to post. You must include your actual First and Last name and a correct email address when registering or posting.
SPONSORS

2024 ICRBE EXPO
CCS Database
Custom Rod Symbol
Common Cents Info
American Grips Piscari
American Tackle
Anglers Rsrc - Fuji
BackCreek Custom Rods
BatsonRainshadowALPS
CRB
Cork4Us
HNL Rod Blanks–CTS
Custom Fly Grips LLC
Decal Connection
Flex Coat Co.
Get Bit Outdoors
HFF Custom Rods
HYDRA
Janns Netcraft
Mudhole Custom Tackle
MHX Rod Blanks
North Fork Composites
Palmarius Rods
REC Components
RodBuilders Warehouse
RodHouse France
RodMaker Magazine
Schneiders Rod Shop
SeaGuide Corp.
Stryker Rods & Blanks
TackleZoom
The Rod Room
The FlySpoke Shop
USAmadefactory.com
Utmost Enterprises
VooDoo Rods

fly guide size, single foot vs snake
Posted by: John Straight (---.netsync.net)
Date: August 18, 2011 12:26PM

Just noticed on J Stockard's site that the recommended guide sizes go up by one size when using single foot vs traditional snakes. Interesting, is this a common practice? Have very little experience with single foot guides.

Thanks, John

JLS Custom Rods
Cassadaga, NY

Options: ReplyQuote
Re: fly guide size, single foot vs snake
Posted by: Phil Erickson (---.dsl.sfldmi.sbcglobal.net)
Date: August 19, 2011 12:02AM

Snake and single foot guides are not sized the same way.

Options: ReplyQuote
Re: fly guide size, single foot vs snake
Posted by: John Straight (---.netsync.net)
Date: August 19, 2011 08:33AM

Phil or anyone

Any specifics available? Is one #size larger for SF guides a good "rule of thumb"?

John

JLS Custom Rods
Cassadaga, NY

Options: ReplyQuote
Re: fly guide size, single foot vs snake
Posted by: Bruce Johnstone (96.18.207.---)
Date: August 19, 2011 08:48AM

Use the smallest size that will pass your largest knots without interference. I use #3 ceramic single foots on my 4 and 6 weights with no problem but I believe i used a #4 ceramic on my 9 weight. Snake guide are sized completely different and I don't think there is a reliable rule of thumb.

Bruce

Options: ReplyQuote
Re: fly guide size, single foot vs snake
Posted by: George Forster (---.hsd1.co.comcast.net)
Date: August 19, 2011 10:32AM

John,
Toward the bottom of this PDF actual guide sizes are shown for snake guides and ceramic ring guides.[merricktackle.com]
Like others have said, use the smallest guide that will pass your connections, cottonwood fuzz on the line, reduce ice formation if you fish in the winter, etc...Spacing charts often list sizes that are bigger than required, because they are trying to cover a broad spectrum of situations. A sz 3 ceramic may work great, if you tie your leader on with a nail knot, and fish in warm weather with no clingy debris on the water surface. I have found that for my purposes, a size 6 ceramic works great. It allows me to use a loop to loop connection. It will pass the late summer vegetation that sometimes sticks to my line, and ice doesn't form as quickly as it would on a smaller guide.
Also worth noting is that a snake passes knots a little easier because its shape. For instance, a size 1/0 snake, works about as well as a size 6 ceramic for passing connections (IMO).

George Forster
Fort Collins, CO



Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 08/19/2011 10:34AM by George Forster.

Options: ReplyQuote
Re: fly guide size, single foot vs snake
Posted by: John Straight (---.netsync.net)
Date: August 22, 2011 10:21AM

George

Thanks, useful info

John

JLS Custom Rods
Cassadaga, NY

Options: ReplyQuote


Sorry, only registered users may post in this forum.
Webmaster