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drop shot setups?
Posted by:
Tim Whitley
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Date: August 04, 2011 10:01AM
I have good friend asking for a drop shot build. What set up, guide and handles spinning would you guys use. If you wish to make blank recommendations fine but set up is my main concern.
Thanks Tim Re: drop shot setups?
Posted by:
Joe Vanfossen
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Date: August 04, 2011 10:26AM
For handles, I like a split Tennessee handle with the reel wrapped on with thread. Since I'm still not set up for turning, I use Batson 1.05" OD, 0.970" ID woven graphite tubing along with their shims and bushings. The tapered woven graphite fore grip pieces make nice butt grips that fill the hand, but I've use EVA butt grips as well. If I were set up for turning, it would be cheaper and make a lighter grip to use carbon sleeving over foam, or even better without foam.
For guides, there are a lot of good options out there, you can use match guides or Y frame guides for reduction guides, and then micros for runners. For a typical 1500-2500 size reel, I would probably use something like 20, 10 in Y frames for the reduction guides and 5, 3, 3, 3, .. in single foot fly guides for the choker and runners. If you use match guides, replace the 20 with a 16, and either lead the 10 or replace it with an 8 in the higher match frame. If the reel will only use braid, you can reduce the reduction guides by yet one more size and still get great results, but if your friend would decide to put a stiffer 10 or 12lb. mono or fluoro on at a later point, there may be some drop off in casting performance. EDIT One more caveat, if your friend would expect the guides to pass leader knots, I would replace the 3's with 4's or 5's depending on the size of his connection knots. For the blank, I would highly recommend one of the Batson 822.5s. Joe Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 08/04/2011 10:30AM by Joe Vanfossen. Re: drop shot setups?
Posted by:
Eric MONTACLAIR
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Date: August 04, 2011 10:40AM
I'll go with a split grip (Cork or Eva) with a size 16 or 17 Fuji VSS (or IPS) with the treaded part reduced in a 'no-foregrip style.
With Fuji Y style 20/12/7 then Fly Micro guide (CLAG4). For light application I'm really happy with the MHX DS820. Hope this help. Re: drop shot setups?
Posted by:
Lou Auret
(204.16.161.---)
Date: August 04, 2011 11:30AM
I like Minima 4's for dropshot.
16 10 M frame a 6 regular frame single then fly style 4's to the tip.That will pass most knots. Ringlock tips are nice. 20m 12m 8y then 4's for guys who insist on bigger reels. Batson 822.5, MHX DS822 and Castaway all are excellent for this. My current personal one is a MHX DS822 stretched to 7ft 1/2 inch done in split grip cork (the extension is in the rear grip), no fore grip just a winding check. I like using the Aero seat. All the 'bling" like any snakeskin or marbeling and hook keeper, labels etc needs to be behind the reel seat. Re: drop shot setups?
Posted by:
Rolly Beenen
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Date: August 04, 2011 04:14PM
I was asked for a 7' 6" drop shot rod. Any suggestions as to which blank to use or just extend a blank. There is a Stcroix 3s76mlxf blank. would this work???? I don't know why he want that long a blank for drop shotting. Rolly Beenen Rovic Custom Rods Re: drop shot setups?
Posted by:
Ron Weber
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Date: August 04, 2011 06:39PM
I would take a look at the Batson line of blanks Ron Weber Re: drop shot setups?
Posted by:
matthew jacobs
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Date: August 04, 2011 08:42PM
Take a look at the MHX DS820 or 821, paired with American Tackle Ringlock guides and Aero seat with split grips. Re: drop shot setups?
Posted by:
Rolly Beenen
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Date: August 04, 2011 09:15PM
neither is 7'6" long. so unless I extend it I guess I am out of luck. Rolly Beenen Rovic Custom Rods Re: drop shot setups?
Posted by:
Ron Weber
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Date: August 04, 2011 09:34PM
Actually the Batson xsw 76ml would probably fit the bill quite well if you want a 7'6" rod Ron Weber Re: drop shot setups?
Posted by:
Marc Morrone
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Date: August 05, 2011 07:41AM
If you want a really nice 7'6" drop shot rod, the Pac Bay T2P902 is the nicest I have seen. These blanks don't catch the hype like some others, but I doubt you'd be disappointed, and the 7'6" model is a real zinger.
Good Luck, Marc Re: drop shot setups?
Posted by:
Herb Bickings
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Date: August 05, 2011 09:11AM
Check out Phenix blanks, they have 2 7'6" blanks in their Ultra MBX Spinning line. I have the UMBX-S706M built as a casting rod that I use as my main drop shot rod and I love it, they also have UMBX-S706MH which I'd like to try. Herb Bickings Re: drop shot setups?
Posted by:
Lou Auret
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Date: August 05, 2011 09:16AM
Rolly,
i used a MHX HS9000 for drop shotting all last season. My buddy bought it from me earlier this year. It worked very well for many finesse applications and had the backbone to even get into slot Redfish, but was soft enough at the tip to catch crappies. He is using it on smallies below Pickwick on the TN river. Re: drop shot setups?
Posted by:
Scott Hovanec
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Date: August 05, 2011 09:45AM
I have the St. Croix 3S76MLXF that I use as one of my DS rods, mostly for deep water (40-55'). It works quite well for that application. Re: drop shot setups?
Posted by:
Karry Batson
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Date: August 05, 2011 12:34PM
Just stopping by hope this helps.
XSB822.5 Rainshadow RX8 Bass Spin Component Part Number Part Description Rod Blank Model # XSB822.5-TC 6' 10" 1pc 6-14lb 1/8 - 5/8oz - Titanium Chrome Butt Cap: HESGFB1.5S-350 1.5" High End Splitgrip Super Grade ID .350" Trim: AWC389 Aluminum Winding Check Trim for HESGFB1.5S-350 Split Grip: HEFG3.5S-250 3.5" High End Foregrip Super Grade ID .250" Trim: AWC389 Aluminum Winding Check Trim for HEFG3.5S-250 Reel Seat Body: BPSTG16 "Textured Gray Graphite Reel Seat Body -Place back of reel seat 9"" inches up from butt threads down" Reel Seat Hood: GTT16C-SN-TC Hood w/cushion Single Nut - TiCH Coated Chrome Shim: SHIM/16/SPIN Proof Board .590" OD 3.70" Length Reel Seat Trim Ring: TRS16-TC Trim Ring for thread side of Spin Seat size 16 TiCH Fore Grip: None Winding Check: FBWC09.0 Rubber winding check for front of #16 seat Hookeeper: XDSHKSS-TC Drop Shot Hookeeper Tip Top: XTCPPCT06R04.5 ALPS SS316-RRD-P Top 06 TiCH Ring 4.5 Tube - TICH w/o Chrome Guides (see below for size and quantity) XPTCFCG ALPS SS316 - TiCH w/o Chrome Single Foot with TiCH Zirconium Ring RRD Guides (see below for size and quantity) XTCYTCG ALPS SS316 Y Guide TiCH w/o Chrome Single Foot with TiCH Zirconium Thin Ring Guide order from the tip top Guide Guide Placement - In inches from the tip top 1st XPTCFCG06 4" 2nd XPTCFCG06 8.25" 3rd XPTCFCG06 12.75" 4th XPTCFCG07 17.5" 5th XTCYTCG07 22.75" 6th XTCYTCG10 28.625" 7th XTCYTCG16 36" 8th XTCYTCG25 45" Rainshadow RX8+ Bass Rods Component Part Number Part Description Rod Blank Model # RX8+S822.5-SB 6'10" 1 pc 6-12lb - Satin Black Butt cap: EVABC20 EVA Butt Cap 19.8 mm Reel Seat: GS17SKC-TC WITH GS17C-GWG Size 17 Spin seat with Gray Woven Graphite Insert threads down Reel Seat Shim: SHIM/16/WG Proof Board .515" OD 3.0" Length Reel Seat Trim Ring: TRS17-TC Trim Ring for Seat Size 17 - TiCH Fore Grip: WFG2.5 Woven Foregrip 2.232" Length Use with WFGRC, WFGFC, and WFGPB - EVA End Caps and Shim Rear Grip: WHGRY-10 cut to 9" 10" Woven Graphite Handle-Gray (1.05" OD / .970" ID) Use with WHKAx3, WBBC, and WFGRC - EVA End Caps and Shims Winding Check: LTCWC395 Lt TitCar Plated Winding Check 0.395" I.D. Hookeeper: XDSHKSS-TC Drop Shot Hookeeper Tip Top TCPCT06F04.5 TICH w/o Chrome Plated 'P' Top 06 TiCH Flanged Ring 4.5 Tube Guides (see below for size and quantity) XPTCFCG ALPS SS316 - TiCH w/o Chrome Single Foot with TiCH Zirconium Ring RRD Guides (see below for size and quantity) XTCYTCG ALPS SS316 Y Guide TiCH w/o Chrome Single Foot with TiCH Zirconium Thin Ring Guide order from the tip top Guide Guide Placement - In inches from the tip top 1st XPTCFCG06 4" 2nd XPTCFCG06 8.25" 3rd XPTCFCG06 12.75" 4th XPTCFCG07 17.5" 5th XTCYTCG07 22.75" 6th XTCYTCG10 28.625" 6th XTCYTCG16 36" 7th XTCYTCG25 45" ISB822.5 Rainshadow Spin Bass Component Part Number Part Description Rod Blank Model # ISB822.5-M 6'10" 1pc Med Spin Bass - Matte Clear Butt cap: SBC20B Black Butt Cap 19.8mm ID Reel Seat: GSTG16C-TC Textured Gray Graphite Spin Reel Seat w/Cushion-Real Light TICH Trim Ring: TRS16-TC Trim Ring for spin seat Reel Seat Shim: SHIM/16/SPIN Proof Board .590" OD 3.70" Length Fore Grip: FG25A-350 2 1/2" Cork Fore Grip .350" ID "A" Grade Cork Rear Grip: RG9A-345 9" Cork Rear Grip 'A' Grade Cork Winding Check: LTCWC475 Lt TitCar Pltd Winding Check .475" ID Hookeeper: XDSHKSS-TC Drop Shot Hookeeper TiCH Tip Top LTCPCT06R05.0 Light TiCH Plated 'P' Top 06 Ring TiCH 5.0 Tube Guides (see below for size and quantity) LTCVSCG Light TiCH Plated Single Foot V Frame TiCH Ring Guide order from the tip top Guide Guide Placement - In inches from the tip top 1st LTCVSCG06 4.5" 2nd LTCVSCG07 9.5" 3rd LTCVSCG07 15" 4th LTCVSCG08 21" 5th LTCVSCG10 28" 6th LTCVSCG16 36" 7th LTCVSCG25 45" Karry Batson Batson Enterprises Inc. Ph: (877) 875-2381 Fax: (360) 683-3579 karry@batsonenterprises.com www.batsonenterprises.com Re: drop shot setups?
Posted by:
Steve Gardner
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Date: August 05, 2011 09:38PM
Batson's RX822.5 is the best I've used for drop shoting!
Light Sensitive Crisp Balances well perfect tip for working a drop and casts like a rocked for when you are not dropping it straight down I would follow Joe's advise, sticking with a carbon Tenn. handle reel wrapped as he suggested for optimal sensitivity. Re: drop shot setups?
Posted by:
roger wilson
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Date: August 06, 2011 05:13PM
Tim,
Depending on your fishing style, don't discount the use of spinning guides for a drop shot guides. I have built many drop shot rods as spinning rods. Many times, especially with the use of lighter lures and baits, the use of the spinning rod actually work much better than wiht a casting rod setup. Take care Roger Re: drop shot setups?
Posted by:
Charles Lechner
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Date: August 09, 2011 08:55AM
The Batson set up above is spot on for me except for grips and reel seat. I have large hands and if I make a spinning rod for me, it will have an Aero reel seat and I use split grips and no foregrip to keep it light as well. But the Batson blanks and spacing referenced works well for ceramic guides. The last one I made using that blank, I used the black Recoils and had to adjust the spacing a tad due to guide height, and it is one nice set up! Sorry, only registered users may post in this forum.
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