I just finished a spinning rod build and had an issue with the finish on the bottom two guides. In fact I have had the same problem a couple of times before. Here are details, size A NCP thread, Threadmaster Lite finish. Right where the thread breaks over the edge of the guide (a size 25, and a 16) the finish has what looks like bumps or thread fuzzies in it. After 3 coats and sanding the area before the last coat the places are still there. I do not think there were wrapped to tight since I had no problem with small adjustments. Is this a result of the finish or something I am doing?

why are you sanding? Just slice off the nubs after teh first coat with a razorblade.

Billy Vivona Wrote:
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> why are you sanding? Just slice off the nubs after
> teh first coat with a razorblade.


yep

Bill,

What will sometimes happen is that when you are going up the guide foot the thread will slip off and get a bit frayed and cause the fuzzy issue. What I do is run my torch over the wraps as I spin it to help singe any fuzz prior to finishing.

Tight lines,

John Hernandez
SoCal

This sounds to me like the guide foot was not "prepped" well enough. The transition from the blank up the guide foot should not "slip" create a bump or a gap. If it is then you need to taper the leading edge some more.

The problem was on top part of guide. The taper of the foot had no problems. I have never tapered the sides of the foot should I be doing so? I am not explaing this well enough but the stuff seem to pop through where the thread goes off the edge and multiple coats do not help. It seems like the finish will not stay on the "corner" or edge of the guide.

It's not a problem, slice it of with a razorblade and put finish ove rit and stop worrying

If you post a picture it will help so everyone can see the issue you are having.

David Dosser
Coshocton, OH

Bill

I have had the same problems with the finish not wanting to cover completely on the sides of the guide feet. When I'm prepping my guides I now taper the sides of the guide foot a little. I don't file it round or anything - just take the sharper edge down! That seems to work for me. I also started putting on thinner multiple coats of finish. More coats helped too.

Rog

Bill,
When I prep a guide foot, I use a belt sander to prep the guide foot.
I start at the end of the foot, and as the sander is spinning shape and thin the guide foot from the tip to the upright part of the guide. I further shap and thin the edges of the guide foot, so that the edges as well as the tip of the guides are near razor thinness.

Then, when wrapping the thread, the line just flows up the guide and nicely drapes tightly to the sides of the guide foot.

Take care
Roger

I tried to post a picture but it did not work? I think I will just cut these two off and round off the guide edges. It seems that the finish does not want to cover a sharp edge as I had the same problem with a hook holder formed from a shaped wire about as thick as a paper clip. I conclude that the edge is the problem and more coats does not help as the finish just seems to flow off. Rodger I use a Dremel and files and will round off the sides from now on. Wish I had a sander, and a lathe, well a power wrapper too! By the way it is not a problem with smaller sized guides.

If you can find it there is a picture of a well preped guide on the photo page

[www.rodbuilding.org]

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Some

Bill - willierods.com



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Wow Rodger that sander looks like a good deal. Would be worth it even for the small amount of rods I build. Thanks Bill I am nowhere near doing that much grinding on my guides. Any tips on what to coat them with to keep rust away, mine are SS SIC's?

Bill,

The nice thing about the sander is that it is relatively small, doesn't take up much bench space and can be used for a myriad of uses.
Sanding guides, sanding grips, sanding blank ends. squaring up reel seats and ends of rods. Cleaning up wood working projects. With the right sanding belt also does a first clast job in sharpening knives as well as tools and reshaping ends of screwdrivers etc.
You can use it to make an end wrench a different size.

Good luck
Roger

p.s.
My name is spelled with no D.

Bill

Get a drill and a small grinding wheel from say Home Depot Which your fingers and give them a quick grind then file. A little 220 sand paper

Bill - willierods.com