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Burnishing & Fuzzies
Posted by:
Bruce Tomaselli
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Date: March 04, 2011 07:18PM
Is it possible to burnish thread wraps so roughly that it causes fuzzies? Can they be so fine so as not to be seen in less than optimal light conditions in which I work? I burnished some wraps with a steel pair of tweezers and I'm wondering if that's the problem. Maybe I caused them? Re: Burnishing & Fuzzies
Posted by:
roger wilson
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Date: March 04, 2011 07:50PM
Bruce,
This is certainly possible. Just to verify the problem, take a scrap blank, use the same thread and lay out a piece of wrap - good and tight. Use a strong light, and a magnifier, and check for fuzzies. Then, use gentle burnishing, and check again. Finally use the same thing that you used on the rod in question to see if you raise the fuzzies. If, at any time you see the fuzzies raised, you know the issue. It is possible that you simply have a bad spool of thread. It happens very seldom, but when it happens, it is likely that the entire spool will be bad. If you do find a bad spool, don't fool around - throw it into the garbage, so that there is no possibility that the thread will be used on another build. Good luck Roger Re: Burnishing & Fuzzies
Posted by:
Phil Erickson
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Date: March 04, 2011 08:36PM
If the tweezers have corners or edges that may be the cause. Most good burnishers are rounded without any edges. A rounded item unless the surface is rough should not cause "fuzzies." Re: Burnishing & Fuzzies
Posted by:
John M. Hernandez
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Date: March 04, 2011 11:21PM
The one thing I have done for years Bruce is run a low torch flame over the wraps as it spins. This has worked well for me over the years. Just an FYI for you if you want to give it a try.
Tight lines, John Hernandez Re: Burnishing & Fuzzies
Posted by:
Bob Balcombe
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Date: March 04, 2011 11:35PM
The suggestions above are great, May I add one, I dampen my thread with distiled water then pack and the lightlythis should flatten the thread, burnish in one direction toward the ring Good Wraps Bob Re: Burnishing & Fuzzies
Posted by:
Herb Ladenheim
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Date: March 05, 2011 08:01AM
Bob,
Doesn't the thread finish just raise the fuzz again. Sounds great if it works. I look for fuzz with a 7 diopter (2.7 mag - I think) head magnifier. I put a white paper under the wrap as I rotate VERY slowly looking for fuzzies. Then I briefly touch with the side of a butane lighter flame. Gets the big ones to a low nub but doesn't eliminate entirely. Generally it gets low enough to be covered by the finish though. Will try the water thing. I assume it should dry 24hr before finishing. Does it ever leave the wrap mottled?? I only use dark colors - black, cobalt blue, dark green because no CP and I use dark blanks. Regards, Herb Re: Burnishing & Fuzzies
Posted by:
bill boettcher
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Date: March 05, 2011 09:03AM
After your first coat of finish when dry I hit any with 400 wet dry sandpaper. Lightly The second coat usually covers well Bill - willierods.com Re: Burnishing & Fuzzies
Posted by:
David Dosser
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Date: March 05, 2011 09:36AM
Speaking of fuzzies, has anyone had trouble with Madiera? I have been having what seems to be more than normal amount of fuzzies with this brand. David Dosser Coshocton, OH Re: Burnishing & Fuzzies
Posted by:
Bruce Tomaselli
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Date: March 05, 2011 10:00AM
Thanks for the replies. One thing I have to do is install better lighting. The thread I am using is Fishhawk Variegated burgundy. It looks great. Re: Burnishing & Fuzzies
Posted by:
bill boettcher
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Date: March 05, 2011 10:29AM
I use a fly tying magnifier lamp with one of those new light bulbs Works well Bill - willierods.com Re: Burnishing & Fuzzies
Posted by:
Herb Ladenheim
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Date: March 05, 2011 10:39AM
My old eyes require that I use an Ott Light and the "headband" binocular 7diopter magnifier to all phases of the work - wrapping, guide prep and even finishing.
Herb Re: Burnishing & Fuzzies
Posted by:
Greg Marshall
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Date: March 05, 2011 12:33PM
I fought the fuzzies a long time and discovered that the wire on the Pac Bay wrapper tensioner spring hook that allows you to back up a little had worn to the point that it was fuzzing the thread. It actually had a goove in it similar to what you normally see on the SS304 tips when someone has been using braid. So, check your tensioner if you have one. Also, those little ceramic thread guides can get a small crack in em if something gets dropped on em. I've replaced mine with Hardloy guides. However, if this is your situation, and you use a magnifier while wrapping, you'll see this coming off the spool during the wrapping process. Re: Burnishing & Fuzzies
Posted by:
Bob Balcombe
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Date: March 05, 2011 02:43PM
First fuzzies will not occur by doing this, I always do a flame touch up using a alcohol lamp, most of the time the fuzz is in the thread, always use a smooth flat ,no sharp edged tool when burnishing Good Wraps Bob Re: Burnishing & Fuzzies
Posted by:
Bob Balcombe
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Date: March 05, 2011 02:57PM
David when using that thread use as little tension as possible, NO had burnishing, alway check the thread pass threw eyes for burrs Good Wraps Bob Re: Burnishing & Fuzzies
Posted by:
Bob Balcombe
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Date: March 05, 2011 04:33PM
I always use a magnification on wraps to check for gaps and over wraps Good Wraps Bob Re: Burnishing & Fuzzies
Posted by:
roger wilson
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Date: March 05, 2011 05:11PM
I agree with Greg.
I recently replaced the thread guides on my tensioner with some inexpensive hardalloy guides for the same reason. Roger Re: Burnishing & Fuzzies
Posted by:
Steve Harding
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Date: March 07, 2011 02:14PM
Bruce,
Had a thread going about 2 weeks ago on a similar issue. I was convinced that I was wrapping too tight - until I bought a new spool of thread. The original spool of Fishhawk nylon was bad, new spool of Gudebrod was fine. Steve Re: Burnishing & Fuzzies
Posted by:
David Dosser
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Date: March 07, 2011 04:37PM
Bob, thanks for the info on wrapping tension with Madeira. I thought I had bad thread also, but found that all of my Madeira does this. The problem was in fact the tension. I backed off a little and did a long run with no more problems. Thanks. David Dosser Coshocton, OH Re: Burnishing & Fuzzies
Posted by:
Bob Balcombe
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Date: March 07, 2011 04:59PM
Hey any time, Any time I change thread companies I always do a tension test. Also when I go to craft stores for thread. I always carry a medium magnifying glass and check thread for frezzies and stains Good Wraps Bob Re: Burnishing & Fuzzies
Posted by:
David Dosser
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Date: March 07, 2011 05:35PM
Good idea. David Dosser Coshocton, OH Sorry, only registered users may post in this forum.
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