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Change the direction of motor-Pac Bay wrapper W/ upgraded chuck.
Posted by:
Gabe Nakash
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Date: March 03, 2011 09:08PM
Hi everybody.
I just got my first power wrapper. It is the Pac Bay with the upgraded chuck. I finally pieced it together and tried wrapping. After wrapping by hand for a while i have been spinning the blank clockwise. I stepped on the footpedal and it turned counter clockwise. I would really want to know if i can change the direction of the chuck. Without moving the unit of course. Should i just move the entire unit around. My table might not be suitable for this. HELP! Re: Change the direction of motor-Pac Bay wrapper W/ upgraded chuck.
Posted by:
Bob Pratt
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Date: March 03, 2011 10:13PM
Gabe do a search I know it's just a matter reversing two wires. I believe it was discussed a short time ago, less than 6 months.
Bob Re: Change the direction of motor-Pac Bay wrapper W/ upgraded chuck.
Posted by:
Gabe Nakash
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Date: March 03, 2011 10:14PM
I did but i couldn't find something anything. ill try some other words. Re: Change the direction of motor-Pac Bay wrapper W/ upgraded chuck.
Posted by:
Chuck Mills
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Date: March 03, 2011 11:38PM
I did mine. I think I have the directions somewhere. More than just two wires. Will check later. _________________________________________ "Angling is extremely time consuming. That's sort of the whole point." - Thomas McGuane Re: Change the direction of motor-Pac Bay wrapper W/ upgraded chuck.
Posted by:
Gerald Guinn
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Date: March 03, 2011 11:54PM
I had the same problem. I made a mounting plate of aluminum and turned the motor around so it faces the opposite direction. Works great Re: Change the direction of motor-Pac Bay wrapper W/ upgraded chuck.
Posted by:
roger wilson
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Date: March 04, 2011 12:50AM
Gabe,
To reverse the motor electrically, you need to take the motor apart, and swap the two wires going to the brushes. Depending on the motor, this may be an easy job or a next to impossible job - depending on the internal layout of the motor and the wiring connections to the brushes. Another option - if you don't want to tear into the motor, is to replace the motor with one that runs in the opposite direction. i.e. instead of clock wise - get a counter cloclwise motor. [www.grainger.com] Dayton also makes a motor that has the 4 - leads brought of the motor, so that you can reverse the motor with a switch. Unfortunately, the only version that dayton builds in this configuration is with the motor that is in the casting set up ffor the gear drive unit. I don't believe that they make it in the common style side mount motor that is used on the wrappers. Roger Edited 2 time(s). Last edit at 03/04/2011 01:24AM by roger wilson. Re: Change the direction of motor-Pac Bay wrapper W/ upgraded chuck.
Posted by:
roger wilson
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Date: March 04, 2011 01:50AM
Here is a picture of the wiring changes required that was posted some time ago - in the picture section:
[www.rodbuilding.org] If you don't want to make the motor reverse direction at the flip of a switch, simply swap the wires and leave the switch out of the changes. Roger Re: Change the direction of motor-Pac Bay wrapper W/ upgraded chuck.
Posted by:
Rick Vohden
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Date: March 04, 2011 06:13AM
take the belt off of the motor pulley, twist it 180 degrees, and reinstall. want the belt to look like a figure 8 around the pulleys instead of a loop. it will change the direction of the chuck. Re: Change the direction of motor-Pac Bay wrapper W/ upgraded chuck.
Posted by:
roger wilson
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Date: March 04, 2011 11:24AM
Of course the simplest thing to do, is to simply reverse the orientation of the wrapper. Then, as far as you, the wrapper is concerned, the wrapper will be going the opposite direction.
Good luck Roger Re: Change the direction of motor-Pac Bay wrapper W/ upgraded chuck.
Posted by:
Bob Balcombe
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Date: March 04, 2011 12:23PM
You do understand that doing a figure 8 is not recommended, it is hard on the belt and puts undo stress on pullies and shafts. I you do it look and getting a larger belt Good Wraps Bob Re: Change the direction of motor-Pac Bay wrapper W/ upgraded chuck.
Posted by:
roger wilson
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Date: March 04, 2011 12:50PM
Also,
As one of the other posters suggested, you can simply flip the motor from end to end, with a newly made monting bracket for the motor and it will do the same thing. Roger Re: Change the direction of motor-Pac Bay wrapper W/ upgraded chuck.
Posted by:
Dennis Danku
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Date: March 04, 2011 02:03PM
Gabe, Years ago I burnt up a motor on a Rod Smith (Pac-Bay) turning cork. I ordered a motor from Grainger as a replacement but chose the wrong turning direction by a mix up in item number. What I got was a counter clockwise directional motor. That motor # is:Dayton 2M034A HP 1/15 RPM 5000 VOLTS 115. I then called PAC-BAY and got the correct motor. It will mount the same as the motor you have now. Dennis J. Danku (Sayreville,NJ) Re: Change the direction of motor-Pac Bay wrapper W/ upgraded chuck.
Posted by:
Jeff Davis
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Date: March 04, 2011 02:05PM
you can just turn the whole thing around. Then you can move or put the thread carriage slide to the front side of the re-oriented wrapper. Simplest way of doing it.
~Jeff~ Re: Change the direction of motor-Pac Bay wrapper W/ upgraded chuck.
Posted by:
Dennis Danku
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Date: March 04, 2011 02:06PM
Gabe, Years ago I burnt up a motor on a Rod Smith (Pac-Bay) turning cork. I ordered a motor from Grainger as a replacement but chose the wrong turning direction by a mix up in item number. What I got was a counter clockwise directional motor. That motor # is:Dayton 2M034A HP 1/15 RPM 5000 VOLTS 115. I then called PAC-BAY and got the correct motor. It will mount the same as the motor you have now. Dennis J. Danku (Sayreville,NJ) Re: Change the direction of motor-Pac Bay wrapper W/ upgraded chuck.
Posted by:
Dennis Danku
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Date: March 04, 2011 02:11PM
sorry about the double post. Dennis J. Danku (Sayreville,NJ) Re: Change the direction of motor-Pac Bay wrapper W/ upgraded chuck.
Posted by:
Dennis Danku
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Date: March 04, 2011 02:15PM
Gabe, How's half price sound plus postage? Dennis J. Danku (Sayreville,NJ) Re: Change the direction of motor-Pac Bay wrapper W/ upgraded chuck.
Posted by:
roger wilson
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Date: March 04, 2011 02:34PM
Gabe,
For the very reasons that you highlight - i.e. motor direction is one of the main reasons that I designed a wrapper using a DC gear motor. The DC style motor gets rid of the motor direction problem. Reverse the motor leads and the motor changes direction. The Gear part of the motor gets rid of all of the various pulleys and belts that come with the typical power wrapper. The gear motor is also much smaller than the typical ac motor - not that that makes any difference at all. But, that is always another option - i.e. go to a dc motor with a variable dc power supply. Take care Roger Re: Change the direction of motor-Pac Bay wrapper W/ upgraded chuck.
Posted by:
Gabe Nakash
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Date: March 04, 2011 02:40PM
I WOULD LIKE TO THANK ALL OF YOU FOR THE ANSWERS. I GOT A TAD LAZY AND JUST PICKED UP THE ENTIRE THING AND TURNED IT AROUND! NOT WHAT I WAS ASKING, BUT I DONT WANT TO MESS UP THE MOTOR!
Tight Wraps! Gabe Sorry, only registered users may post in this forum.
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