Good day to all

I just bought a Brother PT-2100 Lable maker and made some labels with it, went to put them on and thought do I need CP on these things?

Well I hit the search but could not find anything on the subject (probably not asking the machine the right question) and not being computer literate find that I need some expert advice (or at least informed).

Do I need to put CP on These labels?

Thanks for any and all HELP!

Bob,

New Bern, NC.

I would spray it with acrylic clear, let it dry and apply the label. I've tried CP on decals but get just as good if not better results without it. I haven't used the type of label you are using, instead water-slides and white vinyl.

Hi Scott

Thanks for the quick response.
I have been using the waterslide labels but my fingers are thick and it is hard to work with the waterslide labels I keep streaching them and the background color cracks and they don't look good after that.
Sometimes I crinkle them up and that is even worse, these labels done on the PT-2100 go on easy I just hope the epoxy won't pucker or curl them up, I wrapped the ends so the corners can' t curl or pucker but still have the edges to worry about.

Thanks Again

Bob,

New Bern, NC.

Try them on a scrap blank with and with out cp see what happens Only way to be sure.

Bill - willierods.com

Use an acrylic clear with UV blocker. Some printer inks are prone to fading - especially blacks. Better to be safe than to find out after the rod has been sitting on the deck of a clients boat for 2 months. Krylon makes 2 different kinds, apply liberally.

i always use a coat of CP on top of that. I've had it where epoxy went on fine and other times where it fish-eyed horribly... that doesn't happen with the CP and its easy to put on so i always use it now.

Regards,
-Justin

Hi Bill & Justin

I like all the ideas and will do four labels, 1 with nothing, 1 with CP, 1 with Fixitif & CP, and the last one with just Fixitif and let you guy's know how it comes out.

Thanks to All.

Bob,

New Bern, NC.

I have used clear varathane with good results on my labels.

I have used that type of decal in the past and I think because it is a laminated process to make the dcals with that machine, I never had issues with my decals fading. Mine were on clear tape and used the white color. That type of decal does not use ink to make the decals. The main issue I had was the decal curling up and it seemed no mater what I tried I had issues. In the end what worked best was using thread over the decal when first applied and after it set for awhile, applying CP over the decal. That seemed to work the best to keep the decal from curling. But I now like the new peel and stick decals from Decal Connection. They are done just like vinyl decals, with a backing sheet and a cover sheet. You pull the backing off, apply the decal and then with the cover sheet on, you can rub the decal onto the blank. The you peel away the cover sheet just before your finish and you have a clean, fingerprint free decal.

I've use the P-touch labels on some of my rods. The labels look great, but I found two things I don't like about them. First the labels are thick and second, I found they don't like to be coated directly with two part epoxies. The chemical reaction will cause the edges of the label to roll out. I’ve tried different ways to prevent this. What I’ve found that works best for me is to apply the label to the rod. Next apply one coat of Gudebrod 1-Part Rod Finish and let dry over night. Finish with one coat of Flex Coat high build two part epoxy.

As for any issue with fading, as far as I know I have never seem any of my P-touch labels fade.


It would be nice if there were a printer along the lines of the P-touch that would make labels like water slides.

I hope this helps.

I did a post on this subject a few years back, but I’m computer savvy to know how to find it.

Hello Everyone

I did my experiment last, but with 5 sets; #1 the rod I was originally working on was wrapped on both ends and coated with CP, #2 was without any coating, #3 was coated with CP only, #4 was sprayed with Fixitif dryed then CP, #5 was sprayed with Fixitif and let dry.

All showed signs of curling at the edges, worst were the ones with CP, the one with nothing were the best overall and the one with only Fixitif was second best, but as I said they ALL showed some signs of curling and nothing conclusive was revealed.

I will try (later) the put it on and wrap it full length leave it over night and in the morning take the wrap off and coat .

The Epoxy used was Flex Coat.

Thats it for now unless someone else has something to say and if you do , Please do!

Thanks to everyone.

Bob,

New Bern, NC.

After applying the label, apply clear nail polish to the outside edge. It will dry in a minute or two and will anchor the edges.

two things I am wondering are you putting a coat of clear on - then the label ? Is it possible to coat the label - before - putting on the rod ? Maybe the coating drys and it won't curl up ??

Don't know if these will change any thing just wondering

Bill - willierods.com