I'm gonna purchase a printer to attempt to make some "electric" labels. Mine is about shot anyway. Does anyone know how to tell which printers use the solvent based inks and which ones use the dye based inks? I don't really want to buy one that uses the solvents right now. Any suggestion on a printer or all-in- one is greatly appreciated.

Thanks,
Greg Marshall
Trouble with bein on time for work is there's nobody there to appreciate it.

I worded this backwards!! I had them reversed and should have said "solvent" not dye based!

I could be wrong but I think that most now use the dye based inks. Mine is about 5 years old and use dye based. Booby Feazel has a work around to make them work on the "electric"papers. I'll be first in line to see his method in High Point. I hope the new papers are available soon

Mike (Southgate, MI)
If I don't want to, I don't have to and nobody can make me (except my wife) cuz I'm RETIRED!!



Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 02/17/2009 10:31PM by Mike Barkley.

Most now use the newer solvent based archival inks. This is the major problem with the decal media - it's not made for modern ink jet printers.

The article mentioned that the company is working on newer media that will work with modern printers.

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Mike remember the nail knot deal? This will be 10 times better and the price is right too!! Remember put your Lipitor in your pocket!

The decal demonstrations in High Point will include four media types. The following information is provided by the manufacturer of the products.

"Presently our White Waterproof Vinyl works with all types of ink on the market, including: standard dye based, pigment based, and solvent based. Our Gold & Silver Polyester media, as well as our Inkjet Holographic Silver Shine media are coated with a special inkjet receptive coating that is only compatible with dye based inks. This means that all of our media should work with any non-premium ink. Branded inks such as "Claria", "DuraBrite", "Vivera", and "UltraChrome" are pigment or solvent based inks and do not work well with our metallic medias. We are currently in the process of developing a new inkjet receptive coating which will be more broadly compatible with all three major ink types, making our media work with any inkjet printer. We hope to be using this new coating within the next three months to one year."

End Mfg comment:

Bobby's work and the samples created on the Big Show floor with ALL forms of the media will clearly demonstrate this product can produce the graphic arts of the future. The above manufacturer's statement - "and do not work well with our metallic medias" - are under the control of the user. The demonstrations in High Point will be with be with a two year old HP Inkjet Printer using the solvent based ink systems.

For other information on this new application please take the time to read:

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Please drop by the Swampland Booth and see this stuff!



Edited 3 time(s). Last edit at 02/18/2009 09:52AM by Bill Stevens.

As I have posted previously on this board, every decal that I have ever printed has been printed on a HP 'All In One' printer that uses a solvent based archival ink called Vivera. Since I have never used a dye based ink printer to print labels, I am not much help with any comparisons. The labels and decals that can be printed on this media are truly outstanding and I can assure you that if I can do it you can do it. And I hope many will at least try.

Come by the booth this weekend and touch, feel and see hundreds of examples and decide for yourself if the existing media is suitable for solvent based inks. The work around that Mike refers to and that is published in the article is a simple matter of adjusting ink levels and this may take some trial and error with your particular printer. I will even give you a sample to try on your own rod if time allows.

I have found that the key to successful results on the metallic foils and the holographic media is to have lots of patience once your label is printed. LET IT DRY! There are no issues with the white vinyl media.

Let the fun begin.

Bobby, Bill, You guys already had me convinced!

Mike (Southgate, MI)
If I don't want to, I don't have to and nobody can make me (except my wife) cuz I'm RETIRED!!

One more reference for the use of custom builders - Inkjet uv data

Some of the variables of ink uV stability ink are color, substrate, exposure time, intensity and as well as the overlying material. All current inks on the market offer higher levels of protection than older inks.

An excellent source of information can be found at the web site of each printer manufacturer.

[www.printingimagesctc.com]



Edited 2 time(s). Last edit at 02/18/2009 01:29PM by Bill Stevens.