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gold cermet rings
Posted by: ben runyan (---.161.159.251.Dial1.Cincinnati1.Level3.net)
Date: November 26, 2008 10:34PM

I just wondered if any one has tried the "gold cermet " guides by Fuji. There neat looking but they look like they wear out fast . Fuji says they are smoother. I haven't loked on the vickers scale but i doubt it beats 2400 to 1400 .

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Re: gold cermet rings
Posted by: Billy Vivona (---.nycmny.east.verizon.net)
Date: November 26, 2008 11:16PM

What does wear out mean? Best guide ring material available, almost the most expensive, the Fuji Ruby Reds if you can find them are the only ones which cost more.

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Re: gold cermet rings
Posted by: Matt Davis (64.118.9.---)
Date: November 27, 2008 09:49AM

I haven't seen hardness values on the guides so I really can't comment there.

The gold is thru and thru the ring. Not a coating. They certainly don't "wear out fast".

They are slightly heavier than SiC rings in the same frames. 10.8 grains vs. 9.8 grains on a size 12 double foot for instance.


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Re: gold cermet rings
Posted by: Ken Finch (---.coi.bellsouth.net)
Date: November 27, 2008 11:25AM

I thought they had some sort of metal matrix composition but are said to be harder than SIC rings.

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Re: gold cermet rings
Posted by: George Forster (71.237.22.---)
Date: November 27, 2008 12:45PM

SiC is harder than Cermet. Cermet's advantage is that it can make thinner (lighter!) rings.

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Re: gold cermet rings
Posted by: Chris Garrity (---.altnpa.east.verizon.net)
Date: November 27, 2008 01:49PM

I've never used them as running guides (they're out of my budget range, though I am contemplating it for two high-end fly rods I'm working on), but I've come to LOVE them for tip tops. The reason I love them is that they're much more durable than SiC. SiC is great, but it doesn't like being banged around -- the rings chip -- and since I'm a klutz, I bang my tip tops on stuff all the time. Just last week, I boinged the top of a fishing rod against a fence -- I was looking over my shoulder at something, wasn't watching where I was going, and the next thing I knew it looked like I was trying to win a fencing match. Cermet stands up to this kind of abuse much better, in my experiences anyway, than SiC does.

I use a Fuji titanium/cermet top on every rod I can. I only wish they made them in larger sizes (ring and tube). If they did, I'd never use anything else.

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Re: gold cermet rings
Posted by: Dave Wylie (---.nc.res.rr.com)
Date: November 28, 2008 11:28AM

I have them on 2 spinning rods, 7' GLX & 9' IMX, and absolutely no wear after 2+ years of use. These guides are the very best that you can find and the only ones that I will use! JMHO

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Re: gold cermet rings
Posted by: Mark B. Gonsalves (---.hawaii.res.rr.com)
Date: November 29, 2008 02:28AM

My titanium framed cermets have lasted since around the time since braided line started to the present. Have caught soooo many fishes with that rod and NO wear.........................not a single thing to complain about except for a couple of bent frames which i promptly bent back into shape. BTW...I bent the frames taking the rod out of a rod case.

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