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CP turned my wraps black?
Posted by:
Kyle Ligon
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Date: July 16, 2008 08:29PM
I've been building rods for 20 years and this has never happened before (of course, I never use CP, only 5-10 times total but never a problem) . I bought some diamondite CP recently to try it out. First try was good, but I put it on a set of shaded wraps (from white to purple) and all the wraps truned mostly black with some purple showing after the epoxy was applied. I thought maybe the dark blank was showing through but I coated a couple of the wraps twice with CP and still the same results. The rod is for me so I went ahead and coated them all with epoxy since they kinda look marbled. To make things better I went ahead and marblized a little here and there. It actually looks kinda cool, but not what was planned. And yes, I put the CP on thick enough to let it be absrobed by the thread. Anybody seen this before??? I also switched brushes right away incase there was black in the brush. What do you all think? Thanks,................Kyle
What gets me is that it worked the first time I used it??? (same bottle and only a month or two older. The bottle can't be more than 4 months old) Re: CP turned my wraps black?
Posted by:
Billy Vivona
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Date: July 16, 2008 08:40PM
Try a different CP. What you experianced is similar to the results I got with Minwax Polycrillic. Re: CP turned my wraps black?
Posted by:
Kyle Ligon
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Date: July 16, 2008 08:44PM
One more thing, I waited almost exactly 24 hours to let the CP dry. Could that be the problem?.........Kyle Re: CP turned my wraps black?
Posted by:
Billy Vivona
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Date: July 16, 2008 08:48PM
DEfinitely not. TRy a different CP. Re: CP turned my wraps black?
Posted by:
Kyle Ligon
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Date: July 16, 2008 08:56PM
Thanks Billy, I'll definately do that but that doesn't explain why it was fine the first time and not the second. One thing I didn't mention was There was a different brand of thread on the two rods. What brand do you use now? Thanks..............Kyle
I've always heard good things about Diamondite, which is why I was trying it out. I'm certainly not bashing Diamondite, there are several variables (like the thread) besides the CP. Looks like I need to do some testing Re: CP turned my wraps black?
Posted by:
Jim Gamble
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Date: July 16, 2008 08:57PM
I think your blank was different ... color, brand, finish, etc. Diamondite CP is a bit hot IMO. I had a similar experience with a very expensive blank that doesn't hold color well - it lifted and transferred right into my threadwork.
Like Billy said, try another CP. I have had good success with U40's Color Lock and Lamar's Chromaseal. Re: CP turned my wraps black?
Posted by:
Kyle Ligon
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Date: July 16, 2008 09:16PM
I never thought of that Jim. While I think they were(are) both Allstar blanks, that is what it looked like(marbled, like the blank bled through). Like I said above, it looked a little marbled, and that would explain it..............Kyle
I take that back, the second rod is an Allstar and the first (the one with no problems)was a Loomis GLX, which might explain it Re: CP turned my wraps black?
Posted by:
Bob Balcombe
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Date: July 17, 2008 12:12AM
One thought, was your thread packed tight and burnished. Sometimes a light gap well make your thread look dark. On the other hand.I triead a new brand of CP on red. Guess what under normal light the red took on a garnet look. Then under sunlight it turned red. This also happens after I put on finish. I liked it, so I left it
Good Wraps Bob Re: CP turned my wraps black?
Posted by:
Terry Morrell
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Date: July 17, 2008 08:55AM
I would use Lamar's Chromaseal. Some CPs will turn your thread several shades darker and almost black where you really can't tell what color you were using. Re: CP turned my wraps black?
Posted by:
Kyle Ligon
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Date: July 17, 2008 01:08PM
Thanks guys, I will try the u40 and the chromaseal. But the way the blank seemed to bleed through and left a marbeling affect I am 99% sure it was the blank. I have a large supply of Allstar blanks in stock so some experimenting with other CPs is in the works. Thanks again.................Kyle Sorry, only registered users may post in this forum.
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