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Heart Wrap
Posted by:
Ron Beagles
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Date: March 22, 2008 01:30PM
Hi Ya'll - got a quick question -
I have done a few heart wraps in the past, but that was a long time ago! Now I have to do two for a guy and his gal - My problem is every time I do the wrap out of Advanced Rod Techniques by Dale Clemens, it dont look very much like a heart - it is elongated - after five tries I have gotten a little frustrated. any help would be appreciated thanks Re: Heart Wrap
Posted by:
Scott Youschak
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Date: March 22, 2008 02:43PM
It needs to be square. To find the spacing use pi x diameter of the blank. Re: Heart Wrap
Posted by:
John Keys
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Date: March 22, 2008 08:41PM
This is the method I use - The circumfrance of the blank is the distance from the center of design to center of design. I take an index card wrap it around blank, mark diameter and cut. Remeasure cut piece as to diameter. This will give spacing on the top of blank.
For the 180 marks, fold cut piece in half for starting mark, then unfold and mark the rest of blank to be wrapped. This method is very simple. Any distance longer than diameter will produce an elongated design and any distance shorter than diameter will be compressed. Re: Heart Wrap
Posted by:
Raymond Adams
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Date: March 22, 2008 09:28PM
Make sure...
1) your spacing is square. 2) the first diamond that creates the "V" is large enough 3) make the "box" square 4) follow correct pass progression see [www.rodbuilding.org] BTW, the book is Custom Rod Thread Art (pattern #56 ) Raymond Adams Eventually, all things merge, and a river runs through it.. Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 03/22/2008 09:31PM by Raymond_Adams. Re: Heart Wrap
Posted by:
William Bartlett
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Date: March 22, 2008 09:38PM
My question is the diameter WHERE? At the center of the wrap, at the tip end, or butt end of the wrap. This is the confusing part to me, the rest of it I get. Bill in WV Re: Heart Wrap
Posted by:
Raymond Adams
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Date: March 22, 2008 09:40PM
middle of where the wrap will go Raymond Adams Eventually, all things merge, and a river runs through it.. Re: Heart Wrap
Posted by:
William Bartlett
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Date: March 22, 2008 09:41PM
Thanks Ray!!! Bill in WV Re: Heart Wrap
Posted by:
Raymond Adams
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Date: March 22, 2008 09:47PM
BTW, The "Hearts" wrap is one of the easiest wraps in Dale's
book. The key is to make the beginning diamond and the "box" the best size for the number of passes for your blank. Raymond Adams Eventually, all things merge, and a river runs through it.. Re: Heart Wrap
Posted by:
John Keys
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Date: March 24, 2008 09:20PM
In Dale Clemens' book "Custom Rod Thread Art", page 7 is the method for spacing the designs onto the rod. Scott's and the one I use are the same as described on page 7. Scott's method is math (3.14 X diameter rod) and mine is a card cut to wrap around rod. After the space is determained use the method on pages 254 & 255 of "Advanced Custom Rod Building" to layout the center points.
The first design will be square, but as you go toward the tip the design will be elongated as the rod gets smaller in diameter. Depending on the length of the wrap this can be re- measured as you layout the center points. Another method was to average the diameters at the beginning and the end of the wrap and use the average as the spacing. I hope this does not confuse you, these methods are in in one or several of Clemens's books. Some of the butt wraps went almost to the first guide, that was the reason for re-measuring the diameter. Re: Heart Wrap
Posted by:
Raymond Adams
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Date: March 24, 2008 10:00PM
On some long wraps or on blanks with a lot of taper.
The "taper offset" layout (pg. 21 CRTA) is used if you plan to close the wrap. On page 71 of "Decoritve Wraps" by Billy Vivona he shows the Heart pattern and provides spacing measuments and has a good explanation. Billy pick up where Dale left off. Raymond Adams Eventually, all things merge, and a river runs through it.. Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 03/24/2008 10:09PM by Raymond_Adams. Re: Heart Wrap
Posted by:
John Keys
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Date: March 24, 2008 10:42PM
I will have to dig out Billy's book and and update my "memory banks." Thanks Mr. Adams. Sorry, only registered users may post in this forum.
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