Just to let you guys know, we are now stocking the 1.5" x 12" blocks of Urethane foam core material mentioned in the article on carbon fiber grips I recently wrote for RodMaker. Normally foam like this is only available in large sheets making it quite cost prohibitive. This rigid foam in 4lb and 6lb density is fantastic for use a s a core material under carbon, or as a platform for flocking, grip tape etc....It's much cheaper than even the worst grade of cork, and machines/shapes like a dream. Any of the distributors listed on our website have access to this material.

Hope you guys enjoyed the article....have a Merry Christmas!

Andy Dear
Lamar Fishing
www.lamarfishing.com



Edited 2 time(s). Last edit at 12/19/2007 10:29AM by Andy Dear.

I only read the article only quickly, and will have to read it again, but was'nt the recommendation for 8lb?

In my article I reccomend using 4lb or 6lb urethane foam in pre-cut blocks. Tom may be using something else for that pour foam he is using.


Andy Dear
Lamar Fishing

I use the 8lb on the pour-your-own version. The 6lb in solid blocks should be nearly as hard and as the article mentioned, 4lb will work in all but the heaviest duty applications.

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does this product have predrilled hole in the center?

Umm your dealers are not listed on your website.

Now wait a minute guys......are we talking about the SAME FOAM here? Is the pre-made a different type than the liquid? We have recomendations all over the place from not using 4lb to using 4lb is fine. One says 8lb is the only way to go and the other is selling 4 and 6lb in the block form for grips.

I think a lot of us are confused.

DR



Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 12/19/2007 12:43PM by Duane Richards (DR).

No need to be, it was all covered in the article. What Andy is selling began life as a two part liquid. He's just supplying it in cured form for those that don't want to pour their own. Andy's article concerned carbon skinned grips and for that purpose you could easily use the 4lb or 6lb without denting or chipping problems due to the skin providing the surface hardness.

My article covered pouring your own urethane grip cores. As mentioned in my article, you can paint, flock, skin or put any number of coverings or coatings on them. And for that reason, because you may be using something other than a hard composite skin over it, I recommended the 8lb material for the additional hardness that you'd need if you weren't using such a "skin."

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So, carbon over the foam = use 4-6lb

Anything you want over the foam = use 8lb

Correct? and is Andy selling the 8lb version?

DR

I don't think Andy has the 8lb but I suppose if sufficient demand was there he could obtain it. I know that one of things he was working towards was a very, very lightweight grip, so the 4lb and 6lb foams will be lighter by a bit, if that's what you're after and plan to use the composite skins. The 6lb could easily be the best all around stuff to use but I have not seen the 6lb version in liquid form. Thus I had to make the jump from 4 to 8.

Once you play with it a bit you can decide what you think will work best for your application. In nearly all applications I believe the 2lb is just too easily deformed. 4lb is minimum for skinned grips and the 6lb and 8lb can be skinned or flocked, or... whatever. The less surface protection you add the higher density foam you want to use.

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How would rattan work over a foam core. Could I still use Titebond III as my adhesive or would I need to switch. 6 lbs. foam?

Thanks

Jim,

Rattan over it was my first thought. Looking forward to answers!! Great minds think alike LOL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Mike (Southgate, MI)
If I don't want to, I don't have to and nobody can make me (except my wife) cuz I'm RETIRED!!

The distributors in the US are as follows:

Anglers Workshop
Bingham Enterprises
FishSticks4U

The dealer in NY for Lamar Products is Donart.


Thank you and may you have a Merry Christmas!
Karen Hapka
Bingham Enterprises

Rattan is hard so you could use a lower density foam.

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What is Rattan?

Rattan is a bamboo-like material that comes in long strips.
It is wrapped around a sub-strate handle to form a grip that is, for lack of a better word, corrugated.
It also looks and feels pretty cool!

Here is a pic from the photo board:

[www.rodbuilding.org]


Walt



Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 12/19/2007 02:48PM by Walt Natzke.

So here is a loaded question.
With the difference between 4-6-8 pound form being density and hardness.
Will the heavier denser foams be more sensitive or able to better carry vibrations from blank through handle?

Is this foam the same foam that is used for insulation that you can buy in sheets at Home Depoy?It is pink and closed cell. I use it to make duck decoys and then burlap them using tile mastic. Just curious because I have alot of pieces of that just laying around looking for something to use it for.

Custom Tackle in TN has Andy's products as well.

Tim.

I don't think it's the same type foam, but you can certainly try what you have and see if it works.

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Steve,

I don't have the elasticity factors on the urethane foam in front of me. All the densities are similar in rigidity so the lightest of them should be best for sensitivity. I would still shy away from the 2lb stuff because it's a little "rough" to work with. I settled on the 8lb density as it gave me the best combination of all the properties I desired for what I was doing.

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