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inscription problems-help for a newbie
Posted by: Greg Mitchell (---.ded.swbell.net)
Date: January 09, 2005 12:24PM

I am having all sorts of problems signing my rods. I bought a fine point pen and white ink from Jann's Netcraft. When I sign the rod I have no problems and it looks very nice - BUT when I go to put the finish over it - it always smears!
I even tried putting color preserver over it first - but that caused it to smear also. I have been waiting an hour or so - is it possible it is not dry yet?
Do most of you put color preserver over the ink first. Am I missing something?
On my last rod I finally gave up and used a silver colored Sharpie but it does not look as nice as the white ink.
Would appreciate any help.
thanks,
Greg

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Re: inscription problems-help for a newbie
Posted by: bill boettcher (---.250.141.74.Dial1.Weehawken1.Level3.net)
Date: January 09, 2005 12:33PM

You have to let them dry. I heat it with a hair dryer. Once then I wate 15 min. then do it again just to make sure. Put some on a piece of scrape blank and do both. This way you don't stick your finger in the one on the rod and smear it, do it to the scrap

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Re: inscription problems-help for a newbie
Posted by: Emory Harry (---.client.comcast.net)
Date: January 09, 2005 12:49PM

Greg,
If you will go to your local hobby store and get one of the little bottles of acrylic paint and apply it with your dip pen I think that you will have much better luck. You can apply it and a few minutes later put epoxy over it and will not smear.

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Re: inscription problems-help for a newbie
Posted by: Bob Vasko (---.client.comcast.net)
Date: January 09, 2005 02:00PM

Greg, you might want to try dabbing the c.p. onto the inscription, rather than brushing it on. Another alternative is to let it dry overnight before applying finish. Bob Vasko

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Re: inscription problems-help for a newbie
Posted by: Anonymous User (---.client.comcast.net)
Date: January 09, 2005 02:46PM

Just a thought since I haven't done this yet, but you could also try a clear spray over it. Something like what others have mentioned for sealing the writing on their water slide decals with.

Mark

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Re: inscription problems-help for a newbie
Posted by: Bob Crook (---.nas6.portland1.or.us.da.qwest.net)
Date: January 09, 2005 03:26PM

Get a can of Krylon Crystal Clear acrylic spray. Spray a light coat after your inscription has dried from about 10 inches away, it doesn't take much, and let it dry about an hour before applying your finish and you won't have any problem with smearing.

Bob

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Re: inscription problems-help for a newbie
Posted by: Greg Mitchell (---.ded.swbell.net)
Date: January 09, 2005 04:53PM

Thanks for all the ideas. Hopefully I'll get it right this time. I think maybe I was not allowing it to dry enough.

Greg

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Re: inscription problems-help for a newbie
Posted by: Randy Parpart (Putter) (---.nccray.com)
Date: January 09, 2005 06:23PM

Bob Crook is right on; heed the word LIGHT coat in his message. Even a heavy coat of this sometimes smears the writing. A light coat will be no problem whatsoever.

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Re: inscription problems-help for a newbie
Posted by: Bob Balcombe (---.rb.gh.centurytel.net)
Date: January 09, 2005 11:41PM

Hummm What I do I use a quill pen and then I take craft acrylic art pain and thin it down to where I get a nice flow from the quill. after it has dried on the rod maybe 10 min. I give it one thine coat of C/P going in one direction only. Also I take a gray Scotch Brite pad and deglaze just the area I am going to write on
Good Wraps Bob

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Re: inscription problems-help for a newbie
Posted by: Jeff Bullard (167.7.90.---)
Date: January 10, 2005 09:01AM

Greg,
I had the same problem when I tried my first signature right before Christmas. I used a Sanford Uniball Gold Gel pen. Scuffed the blank alittle where I wanted to write with a Scotch Brite pad, then went on to scribe a beautiful sig which promptly smeared like crazy as I tried to put on some CP. I wiped the whole mess off with Alcohol (had a little myself) then tried it again. This time I used a hint that I picked up on this board. After blowing it with the hair dryer for a few mins, I covered it with my wife's hair spray. Just a brief shot from about 8-10 in away and then let it dry again. It actually worked!
Sadly, my great sig is displayed from under a pretty crappy finish job, but hey... one problem at a time! Am I wrong to think that the coat of finish over a sig only needs to be thick enough to coat it and not build it up? I guess you can put it on, then wipe it off with something like a coffee filter to get the thickness you need?
See you guys in Charlotte.

Jeff

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Re: inscription problems-help for a newbie
Posted by: Randy Parpart (Putter) (---.nccray.com)
Date: January 10, 2005 10:37AM

Jeff
Less is more on the inscription covers. Too much finish is real hard to get a nice, smooth surface on.

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Re: inscription problems-help for a newbie
Posted by: Gerry Rhoades (---.unifield.com)
Date: January 10, 2005 05:38PM

I use a gel pen which, in my experience, smears if you look at it wrong. I use Artists Spray Fixatif, Krylon and Grumbacher both make the stuff. It does the same thing the Krylon Clear does, but you can more easily remove it if you want.

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Re: inscription problems-help for a newbie
Posted by: Art Ingram (---.225.135.84.Dial1.Cincinnati1.Level3.net)
Date: January 12, 2005 10:33AM

Greg,

I'm sort of a rookie myself, I have a terrible hand so I have chosen to use decals from Decal Connection, one of the sponsors. I think that he can even create decals using your own signature. It's an option that I have used with great success.

Art

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