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Small NCP Thread Sizes?
Posted by: wayne vierhout (---.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com)
Date: January 01, 2024 06:34AM

Hello

I am looking for NCP thread that is smaller in diameter than size A.
Was wondering if anyone knows where to get size AA or smaller NCP thread?

thx

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Re: Small NCP Thread Sizes?
Posted by: Tom Kirkman (Moderator)
Date: January 01, 2024 09:11AM

One company's A is not always the same diameter as another company's A. I seem to recall that the Fuji thread runs a tad smaller than most other companies' similar label size. Hitena might also. So in the absence of AA NCP, you might attempt to find some "smaller" A size NCP.

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Re: Small NCP Thread Sizes?
Posted by: Robert A. Guist (---.res6.spectrum.com)
Date: January 01, 2024 09:46AM

Hello All.

This is the only article I could find that is applicable at all.

Volume/Issue.....Article......................Author......................Page.
2/5 Thread Not All Created Equal. By Ralph O'Quinn. 19



Tight Wraps & Tighter Lines.

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Re: Small NCP Thread Sizes?
Posted by: Patrick Coco (---)
Date: January 01, 2024 06:26PM

I recently watched a video on tiger wraps and they discussed the size order of different size A threads from different manufacturers. I tried finding it again but can't seem to locate it. I'll keep digging. Or maybe someone else will see this and will have it handy...

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Re: Small NCP Thread Sizes?
Posted by: Lynn Behler (---.44.66.72.res-cmts.leh.ptd.net)
Date: January 01, 2024 07:17PM

Might this be it? [www.youtube.com]

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Re: Small NCP Thread Sizes?
Posted by: Patrick Coco (---)
Date: January 01, 2024 08:51PM

Yes! Thank you! Great video overall about tiger wraps and worth it for that alone obviously. But I remembered discussion about how the different sizing of the size A threads would alter your tiger wrap appearance.

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Re: Small NCP Thread Sizes?
Posted by: Richard Bowers (---.ptld.qwest.net)
Date: January 02, 2024 03:17PM

While I have not tried this, a friend of mine that is highly experienced in building fly rods told me his process. He uses a smaller silk thread and if he wants it to retain its color, he pre-treats the thread with a good quality color preserver. He strips off a length of thread (without cutting it from the spool, then uses his fingers to massage the color preserver into the thread. After 2 or three applications of the preserver, he re-winds the thread on the spool and proceeds to wrap the guide. wraps the rod.

There are however a couple cautions with this method:

1) Not all silk threads react to CP the same way, you will need to test it before you proceed, especially with the lighter colors.
2) Smaller diameter silk thread does not have the same tensile strength as the Nylon and Polyester threads we are used to - it can (and does) break much easier.

My personal favorite treated size A thread is ProWrap. While not the smallest size A, I have never had an issue with it changing color or getting blotchy when applying the epoxy, and the result actually looks like vinyl tape when done correctly. I get many comments by my customers asking if it is in fact thread!

Lately, I have been leaning to ProWrap size B (available in both treated and untreated versions through Foundation Outdoor Group retailers like American Tackle and Mudhole) It wraps much easier than A but looks almost as good - you would be hard-pressed to identify the difference if you didn't know.

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