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New guide concept
Posted by: Lawrence west (---)
Date: November 12, 2023 09:55AM

Can someone please help me understand the new guide concept? I usually build lighter rods with the kr concept using klh guides. I understand that method to an extent. I am a visual learner so I need to see it work on a rod.

I’m building an 8ft saltwater rod for redfish and drum with a 5k certate and 30lb braid

My ask is for someone to tell me what guides I need to buy and spacing.

I’m sure this has been asked multiple times and any and all help is appreciated

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Re: New guide concept
Posted by: Kendall Cikanek (---)
Date: November 12, 2023 10:16AM

Here are the resources needed to successfully do this. It’s quite easy to get it right by following these instructions and using these tools. Without all the information that is needed by the software, a remote attempt on this forum would be inaccurate. Without having the rod in hand, the “straight edge test” also isn’t possible. If you do it yourself, the results will be better and you will have mastered an important part of the process.

[anglersresource.net]

[anglersresource.net]

I’d probably go with 5.0 running guides and use a couple of more than the software calls for. I think it will put you in a size 20 first (stripper) guide, but I don’t use 5000 sized reels to know.



Edited 2 time(s). Last edit at 11/12/2023 10:24AM by Kendall Cikanek.

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Re: New guide concept
Posted by: Norman Miller (Moderator)
Date: November 12, 2023 11:07AM

Here is an article from the library by Tom Kirkman which does a good job describing the New Guide Concept (NGC). The KR concept is an off shoot of the NGC. Because I use braid, I rarely use the NGC anymore, I prefer the KR concept with its high frame small ring reduction guides designed for rapidly choking line coils.
[www.rodbuilding.org]
Norm

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Re: New guide concept
Posted by: Mike Ballard (---.cust.tzulo.com)
Date: November 23, 2023 04:50PM

Braid will work with nearly any good guide system. Mono not so much. Yes the lighter pound tests are more supple but I had some 10lb mono on a rod last week that was awful no matter what system I tried to use. It was a super abrasion resistant line and I guess it is just too stiff to work well though it is rated as 10lb test.

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Re: New guide concept
Posted by: Lynn Behler (---.44.66.72.res-cmts.leh.ptd.net)
Date: November 23, 2023 06:58PM

Here's an old one for you. [www.youtube.com]

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