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Carbon Fiber Guides
Posted by: Aleks Maslov (Moderator)
Date: November 02, 2023 11:41AM


R&D doesn’t sleep. Apparently neither does our engineering team. What do you guys think? Yes to a product release or no?

Yes - these are complete carbon fiber (except the insert)

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Re: Carbon Fiber Guides
Posted by: Lance Schreckenbach (---.lightspeed.hstntx.sbcglobal.net)
Date: November 02, 2023 11:54AM

If there is an actual weight savings, for sure, put em out there. There are many people that would use them for the aesthetics, I would use them if there was a performance enhancement. You won't know until you go, paddle out and guinea pig it for us.

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Re: Carbon Fiber Guides
Posted by: Peter Yawn (---.mpls.qwest.net)
Date: November 02, 2023 01:19PM

It would be nice to have a source for carbon fiber guides. Right now it is just Daiwa and St. Croix with carbon fiber guides made by Fuji. No idea if or when the guides alone will be sold. Is there a measurable benefit over titanium guides? Dunno, but probably doesn't matter. More choice is always good. If you can sell them at a price not too much more than Fuji titanium I think there would be quite a few buyers.

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Re: Carbon Fiber Guides
Posted by: Dennis Danku (---.dyn.optonline.net)
Date: November 02, 2023 01:55PM

No, not for me. Too much bulk in the frame.

Dennis J. Danku
(Sayreville,NJ)

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Re: Carbon Fiber Guides
Posted by: Robert A. Guist (---.res6.spectrum.com)
Date: November 02, 2023 02:25PM

Hello Aleks.

I would be interested if they are any good, what testing have you done?

1. How hard is it to knock a ring out of the frame?
2. how heavy are they compared to titanium?
3. How pliable are they?
4. What type of inserts can you get them in?


Thanks Aleks.


Tight Wraps & Tighter Lines.

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Re: Carbon Fiber Guides
Posted by: Tom Kirkman (Moderator)
Date: November 02, 2023 02:32PM

I've never liked putting metal framed guides on a rod blank. Have been hoping for either a nylon composite or carbon framed guide. It has to happen at some point.

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Re: Carbon Fiber Guides
Posted by: Bruce Tewnion (66.115.146.---)
Date: November 02, 2023 03:22PM

Yummy yummy! Those would look nice on some of the 10 NFC blanks I have coming!

Where do I sign up to be a field tester so I have an excuse to go fishing every day?

Only 6 months to go before I'll be able to go fishing again so need them soon.

“The gods do not deduct from man’s allotted span the hours spent in fishing.” - Herbert Hoover

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Re: Carbon Fiber Guides
Posted by: Peter Yawn (---.mpls.qwest.net)
Date: November 02, 2023 03:23PM

From my experience with carbon fiber guides on a Daiwa rod:
1) Very hard to knock out a ring under normal use
2) Lighter than titanium, but don't know how much
3) They are not pliable. Very stiff, they do not bend.
4) I think the Daiwa (Fuji) inserts are SIC

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Re: Carbon Fiber Guides
Posted by: David Baylor (---.res6.spectrum.com)
Date: November 02, 2023 04:13PM

Yeah ... I agree with Dennis. I'll stick with titanium if I want ultra light guides. If you get Fuji guides in the black titanium, they're a lot prettier than what I see here.

At least I think so.

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Re: Carbon Fiber Guides
Posted by: Mark Brassett (---)
Date: November 03, 2023 06:37AM

I would buy them. What are the chances of creating carbon fiber thread for wrapping?

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Re: Carbon Fiber Guides
Posted by: Michael Danek (192.183.59.---)
Date: November 03, 2023 07:21AM

How thick are the feet? What sizes available? Or just a marketing test?

I think they are pretty ugly and am not interested. One thing I like about Fuji micros is how unobtrusive they are, and the larger size KLH's are pretty stylish, IMO.

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Re: Carbon Fiber Guides
Posted by: Chris Catignani (---)
Date: November 03, 2023 11:22AM

I'm on board.
I think they will be hit....already seeing them on Diawa products (AGS).

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Re: Carbon Fiber Guides
Posted by: Mike Ballard (---.cust.tzulo.com)
Date: November 03, 2023 12:02PM

I think the saltwater rod market will welcome them. No corrosion. Strength and cost will be the considerations.

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Re: Carbon Fiber Guides
Posted by: chris c nash (---.atmc.net)
Date: November 03, 2023 01:26PM

Lighter than titanium and corrosion free will be a huge hit with the surf rod market but if the price exceeds that of titanium frames you can forget it . I think they will be cheaper myself.

No doubt they will be bulkier guide frames than stainless or titanium because the bulk is needed to achieve the strength but that doesn't bother me if in reality they weigh less .

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Re: Carbon Fiber Guides
Posted by: Michael Danek (192.183.59.---)
Date: November 03, 2023 04:26PM

Now we will need a wind resistance test to see how much they slow recovery speed.

Just kidding, but couldn't resist. Devil made me do it.

Clearly a case of different strokes for different folks, and I applaud "going for it."

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Re: Carbon Fiber Guides
Posted by: Jay Weissler (---.hsd1.il.comcast.net)
Date: November 03, 2023 04:57PM

Are the frames completely smooth or do they like an uncoated weave? Guides like to collect gunk and I wouldn't want to encourage that with textured guides

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Re: Carbon Fiber Guides
Posted by: Brian Jackson (107.115.203.---)
Date: November 03, 2023 08:50PM

I would definitely try a set! They look great!

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Re: Carbon Fiber Guides
Posted by: Lynn Behler (---.44.66.72.res-cmts.leh.ptd.net)
Date: November 03, 2023 08:54PM

They appear to be completely smooth to me. Can the feet be tapered? (filed)

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Re: Carbon Fiber Guides
Posted by: Thomas Kaufmann (172.59.231.---)
Date: November 03, 2023 09:52PM

If lighter than titanium, PLEASE DO IT!

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Re: Carbon Fiber Guides
Posted by: Eddie Anderson (173.170.92.---)
Date: November 04, 2023 06:44PM

I would try them. I think they would pair well with the 2 x ray co2 sj764 blanks I received this week. That being say price would play a factor.

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