A friend of mine is thinking of having me build a 130 lb stand up rod for him .Is a double wrap od size d thead sufficient for the roller guides? Underwrap?

You can use A for the underwrap. I would suggest at least two overwraps of D on the guides. And, I would epoxy each layer of D.

Some will tell you to use three overwraps of D. While that might be overkill, on a rod that heavy it won't hurt anything.

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Hello Peter.

I'm with Tom 100%.


Tight Wraps & Tighter Lines.

Why not all D thread, coat underwrap with Lacquer, dries fast and can overwrap within a hour.

Peter,

I have built several 130 lb class stand up rods for myself over the years and fished them numerous times. I have used roller and conventional guides. I have caught tuna and swordfish on them. I do an under wrap with A thread and I do a Size D thread double wrap on the guides. The way I do the double wrap is I wrap up the guide and then back down as a continuous wrap. I then finish with high build epoxy. I have never had a problem with any guide on any of the rods even through long fights. You can build much better than you can buy. I built a killer 130 lb 5’6” Saber Stroker blank in the 90’s that I still fish today. If you have any other questions let me know.

Mitch

Hi Peter,

Let me start off by saying that I offer this as neither agreeing or disagreeing with the previous responses you have received. I have built many 130# standup rods for others and myself which have landed at least two 300# and a lot of 200# Yellowfin using both Gudebrod A, and more recently Maderia Polyneon 40. My reasoning for trying this originally is that I think the smaller thread makes a much better looking wrap, and I have had no problem with overwrapping the same size thread, while I have read that some do. Right way to do it? Don't know, but it worked for me.My best,

Pat

I don’t have any experience with anything near the specs you’re asking about, but I built my nephew a big swimbait (for large mouth bass) rod for my nephew awhile back and I used double foot guides and I double wrapped them and it turned out great. He loves it. The one thing I can say that might be of use to you is it didn’t add any noticeable weight.

Better be tied off if he catches something. I would highly recommend a spiral wrap for a a standup rod. Tom is spot on and don't forget to use the A for the underwrap, the D size over thread will try to get between a larger thread size and make it difficult to step up to the underwrap even if it has a coating of epoxy.

I’ve wrapped a couple handfuls of 100-130lb rail rods for tuna fishing on the west coast. All of them have been D underwraps with D double over wraps and all have held up to 100-250lb tuna with 50lbs or more of drag. The key for me is just coating the underwrap, letting that dry and then doing the guide feet after that. I haven’t had a report of a guide issue with this method yet.