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Re: Is a heat gun a part of your rod builders toolbox?
Posted by: Michael Ward (162.191.124.---)
Date: May 25, 2022 11:10AM

Aleks Maslov Wrote:
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> You absolutely can - but I assume that if you
> don’t have an oven dedicated to “tinkering”
> the burn off from resins used would not be too
> kind to the kitchen area...
>
> Chris Catignani Wrote:
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> > Why couldnt we also put it in an oven?

Was thinking this as well - have a small oven used for powder coating small parts that sounds like it would be perfect for this...

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Re: Is a heat gun a part of your rod builders toolbox?
Posted by: Aleks Maslov (Moderator)
Date: May 25, 2022 12:18PM

Michael -

A small oven would be perfect.

You would need to place the grip inside, let the oven ramp up to 300, and it should be done after about 20 mins.

Best Regards,
Alex


Michael Ward Wrote:
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> Aleks Maslov Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > You absolutely can - but I assume that if you
> > don’t have an oven dedicated to
> “tinkering”
> > the burn off from resins used would not be too
> > kind to the kitchen area...
> >
> > Chris Catignani Wrote:
> >
> --------------------------------------------------
>
> > -----
> > > Why couldnt we also put it in an oven?
>
> Was thinking this as well - have a small oven used
> for powder coating small parts that sounds like it
> would be perfect for this...

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Re: Is a heat gun a part of your rod builders toolbox?
Posted by: Phil Ewanicki (97.104.222.---)
Date: May 25, 2022 03:50PM

I would be interested to know for what specific tasks rod builders apply heat with a heat gun, what temperature heat builders apply for a specific task, and how long they apply it?

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Re: Is a heat gun a part of your rod builders toolbox?
Posted by: Aleks Maslov (Moderator)
Date: May 25, 2022 04:01PM

Phil,

At our rod factory - we use "heat-shrink" for some models. We've found that a heat gun is faster to use rather than a hair dryer.

Best Regards,
Aleks

Phil Ewanicki Wrote:
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> I would be interested to know for what specific
> tasks rod builders apply heat with a heat gun,
> what temperature heat builders apply for a
> specific task, and how long they apply it?

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Re: Is a heat gun a part of your rod builders toolbox?
Posted by: Phil Ewanicki (---.inf6.spectrum.com)
Date: May 26, 2022 09:08AM

Aleks,

I suspect amateur rod builders consider speed in rod building to be a low priority, and I assume from your response we amateur rod builders will find hair dryers perfectly satisfactory for dealing with heat shrink tubing. This does not mean there will be little demand for or profit in selling dedicated heat-shrinking-guns to avid amateur rod-builders.

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Re: Is a heat gun a part of your rod builders toolbox?
Posted by: Joseph Willsen (---.dyn.optonline.net)
Date: May 26, 2022 10:50AM

I have a heat gun and use it almost exclusively to soften up EVA grips to fit over some larger blanks that I am building on.

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Re: Is a heat gun a part of your rod builders toolbox?
Posted by: Phil Ewanicki (---.inf6.spectrum.com)
Date: May 27, 2022 12:03PM

What's the practical difference between using a heat gun or a hair dryer for rod building?

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Re: Is a heat gun a part of your rod builders toolbox?
Posted by: Joel Wick (---.norlight.net)
Date: May 27, 2022 04:27PM

Phil, give me a week or two to prepare some line graphs for you.

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Re: Is a heat gun a part of your rod builders toolbox?
Posted by: roger wilson (---)
Date: May 27, 2022 04:48PM

Phil,
The practical and real difference between hair dryers and heat guns is about 900 degree hotter capability with the heat gun.

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Hair Dryers typically heat to between 80 and 140 degrees Fahrenheit. With maximum heat, it can reach an extreme temperature like 140 degrees, which is enough to bake not only your hair but also the skin on your scalp. Stylists usually suggest keeping the setting on a moderate-high setting
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The industrial grade heat gun comes with two heat settings. Its high temperature is at 1,000°, while the low temperature is at 600° F.

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The previous are quotes from other sources with respect to the heat of a hair dryer and the heat of an industrial heat gun.

Normally, when I want heat - I want a lot of it. So, I use only the industrial heat gun for any of my shop work.

Best wishes

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Re: Is a heat gun a part of your rod builders toolbox?
Posted by: Chris Catignani (---)
Date: May 29, 2022 07:46AM

Phil Ewanicki Wrote:
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> What's the practical difference between using a
> heat gun or a hair dryer for rod building?

Phil...either device will depend on the wattage.
But as an average...
A hair dryer will blow about 200 degrees F.
A heat gun will blow up to 1,000 degrees F.

A hair dryer would be great for releasing bubbles on epoxied thread.
A heat gun would be great to help remove a reel seat.

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Re: Is a heat gun a part of your rod builders toolbox?
Posted by: Phil Ewanicki (---.inf6.spectrum.com)
Date: May 29, 2022 11:20AM

A 1000 degree F. heat gun can do serious, permanent damage to the epoxy matrix of a rod blank (ruin it) in a brief time, but it won't if you are Very Careful - much like a sledgehammer can be used to crack peanuts if you keep your thumbs out of the way. Even a hair drier, which produces 200 degree F. heat, can soften and damage the epoxy matrix of a rod blank over a period of time, but you might save as much as a minute of time by using a heat gun

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Re: Is a heat gun a part of your rod builders toolbox?
Posted by: Chris Catignani (---)
Date: May 29, 2022 12:35PM

Phil Ewanicki Wrote:
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> A 1000 degree F. heat gun can do serious,
> permanent damage to the epoxy matrix of a rod
> blank (ruin it) in a brief time, but it won't if
> you are Very Careful - much like a sledgehammer
> can be used to crack peanuts if you keep your
> thumbs out of the way. Even a hair drier, which
> produces 200 degree F. heat, can soften and damage
> the epoxy matrix of a rod blank over a period of
> time, but you might save as much as a minute of
> time by using a heat gun

Phil...most people primarily use a heat gun to strip paint. It just a bonus if you also happen to build rods.

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Re: Is a heat gun a part of your rod builders toolbox?
Posted by: ben belote (---.hsd1.md.comcast.net)
Date: May 29, 2022 04:21PM

I wonder how many rods you have to destroy to become experienced?lol.

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