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Posted by:
Michael Danek
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Date: October 30, 2021 04:45PM
The coating on the loop of my fly line has "gone away" leaving what appears to be a strong inner fiber. But I'm not sure. Is there a good way to repair the loop on a fly line? Re: Fly experts, please take a look
Posted by:
Tom Kirkman
(Moderator)
Date: October 30, 2021 05:47PM
At some point I'd most likely trim the factory loop off, install a heavy mono loop via a nail knot and perfection loop, and keep on fishing.
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Posted by:
Bill Hickey
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Date: October 30, 2021 08:58PM
It happens, they break down, the outer coating near the factory loop. I’d do what Tom K says. Nail knot and perfection loop. Personally, I like the factory loops, but a well tied nail knot is just as seamless. Re: Fly experts, please take a look
Posted by:
david taylor
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Date: October 30, 2021 08:58PM
You can:
1) cut off the old loop and watch a YouTube video on how to make a new loop with an iron; [www.youtube.com] 2) cut off the old loop and tie on a mono loop as indicated above; [www.youtube.com] 3) cut off the old loop and replace it with a Rio or other company's braided loop. [www.youtube.com] 4) cut off the old loop and whip a new loop. [www.youtube.com] [www.youtube.com] Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 10/30/2021 09:00PM by david taylor. Re: Fly experts, please take a look
Posted by:
ben belote
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Date: October 30, 2021 09:09PM
mustad makes a spike that is inserted into the core of the flyline..it has a eye on the end to which you ty the leader..i have used these for years on my bass bugging rods with no problems at all.. Re: Fly experts, please take a look
Posted by:
Michael Danek
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Date: October 31, 2021 06:24AM
Thanks everyone! Great options. Ben, I used that spike many years ago, too, didn't know they were still made. Re: Fly experts, please take a look
Posted by:
ben belote
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Date: October 31, 2021 07:58AM
i haven,t purchased the in a while..i last got them from janns..they still have them in stock.. Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 10/31/2021 08:10AM by ben belote. Re: Fly experts, please take a look
Posted by:
Michael Danek
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Date: October 31, 2021 08:22AM
I just made a mono loop using the diameter recommended in the Mad Rivers Outfitters tutorial and it came out very nicely. Finally figured out how to make a small perfection loop, too. Thanks again. Re: Fly experts, please take a look
Posted by:
Phil Ewanicki
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Date: October 31, 2021 12:36PM
A "tucked inside itself" loop made in #50 hollow braided mono line* with a 3"-4" doubled tail on the loop can be slid, inch-worm style, over the end of a fly line, and the braid ends trimmed, trapped, and secured under a short monofilament whip-finish. The leader butt can be tied to this braid loop, or the leader loop can be slipped over and through braided line loop for a strong, durable, compact, and quick change loop-to-loop connection. * #35 mono braid for lightweight fly lines Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 10/31/2021 12:40PM by Phil Ewanicki. Re: Fly experts, please take a look
Posted by:
Michael Danek
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Date: October 31, 2021 03:57PM
Thanks, Phil. I noticed that the "nail-less" nail knot shown in the Mad Rivers tutorial is not really a nail knot, and is not as compact as the real nail knot. I re-did a loop with the real deal, and while it's a little more difficult to accomplish, I'm going with the real nail knot. It is one diameter of the leader smaller than the "nail-less" nail knot. Re: Fly experts, please take a look
Posted by:
Lance Schreckenbach
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Date: October 31, 2021 05:54PM
I usually cut the loop off anyway and use a nail knot on stiff mono about 4' to 5' in length (the diameter will depend on the size / weight of the fly line) then bloodknot a 2.5' smaller stiff mono with loop on the end of that piece and loop to loop tippet section about 2'. Lays down the fly nice. I just change out tippet sections when they get too short without having to tie knots using the loop to loop. If it is a really light tippet you have to go with all blood knots or else it will break too easy. The loop to loop works good on any 8# and up tippet section. There are a million ways you can tie leaders but this is what I have done over the years. Re: Fly experts, please take a look
Posted by:
Robert Flowers
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Date: October 31, 2021 07:56PM
A nail knot tool makes tying a nail knot loop exceptionally easy. Tight Lies and frisky fish RJF Re: Fly experts, please take a look
Posted by:
Michael Danek
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Date: November 01, 2021 07:41AM
I've seen the tool, but I don't have one-use a plastic cylinder about 3/16 in diameter which works pretty well. I should get the tool. Re: Fly experts, please take a look
Posted by:
david taylor
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Date: November 01, 2021 12:07PM
For a few bucks a nail knot too is well worth it, IMHO. Re: Fly experts, please take a look
Posted by:
Michael Danek
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Date: November 01, 2021 05:06PM
Question on nail knot tools, will they control the wraps of .024 stiff leader wrapped around a fly line? Small enough? Doing a nail knot with stiff mono around a small diameter object like a fly line is quite different from wrapping thread around a rod blank. It's easy for the wraps to get out of control. I think a very small diameter tool with a slot for the leader to be pushed back through may be better than the usual tools I've seen. I ground a flat on my 3/16 cyclinder, and it works very well. Sorry, only registered users may post in this forum.
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