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Gen 4 Blue
Posted by: Daniel Kerr (---)
Date: May 01, 2021 11:08AM

Has anyone used the Gen 4 epoxy on a white rod? I'm wondering if it has a blue tint to it after its mixed, seems to me that it would. What your favorite finish for non-yellowing?



Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 05/01/2021 11:23AM by Daniel Kerr.

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Re: Gen 4 Blue
Posted by: Spencer Phipps (---)
Date: May 01, 2021 11:18AM

We used to add a touch of Coast Guard Blue to our white paint to fight yellowing, haven't heard of any epoxy that was tinted blue.

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Re: Gen 4 Blue
Posted by: chris c nash (70.40.87.---)
Date: May 01, 2021 12:09PM

The blue tint is just an aid to let builders know to keep mixing until it disappears , that's it's sole purpose to make sure the hardener and resin is mixed thoroughly enough . I used Generation IV on two separate surf rod builds in the color Alpine White by CTS . Stunning clarity

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Re: Gen 4 Blue
Posted by: Tom Kirkman (Moderator)
Date: May 01, 2021 01:04PM

You're looking at a great thickness when you view through the bottle. Sort of like beer, which appears amber in a clear bottle, but in a thin layer it's clear. It won't be blue. Don't worry about it.

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Re: Gen 4 Blue
Posted by: chris c nash (70.40.87.---)
Date: May 01, 2021 01:17PM

After reading Toms response I thought maybe I'm mistaken about mixing until the blue disappears , I got the info from the below post a while back . Karen from Bingham says both are crystal clear but mix until the blue disappears. I give up



Generation 4, the newest rod finish to come out on the market in years. XAR means Extreme Air Release. This new rod finish being developed will be the end of all air bubble issues that give many rod builders the biggest problems. Mix like any other finish then pour onto foil and you can virtually watch the bubbles release. After mixing gently for about 3 minutes, there were about 8 or so bubbles in the cup. Poured it in a foul dish and let it set for a couple of minutes and not a single bubble left. Bubble free and clear.
Pot life 30 minutes and can be ready for a second coat, in four hours or less depending on temperature.

Blue React Technology. It’s a blue tinted chemical added to the resin to help differentiate the 2 parts because both parts are water clear. Mix until the blue disappears and you are good to go.

This new formula was developed by Andy Dear, who was the originator of THREADMASTER many years ago.
Currently available in HiBuild- Lite formula will be coming in the Spring

Generation 4 HighBuild will be available for sale by the 1st week in February - contact me by email below for details.

Karen Hapka
Bingham Enterprises

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Re: Gen 4 Blue
Posted by: Bill Hickey (---.nycap.res.rr.com)
Date: May 01, 2021 01:24PM

I've been using the Gen 4 for about a year now, that "blue" tint will disappear when you have it mixed. I've also used it in a couple of CTS Shine blanks as well as Natural Fiberglass, it has stayed "clear" just fine so far. The one thing I do notice with the Gen 4 compared to other brands, the luster of the thread is more enhanced in my opinion, the cured product result just looks better.

I seriously doubt any 2 Part Epoxy finish will withstand not going yellow at some point, it will vary by manufacturer and how much it is out in the daylight. While I have not used it, Permagloss, I believe and what I have read will not yellow over time.

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Re: Gen 4 Blue
Posted by: Mark Brassett (---)
Date: May 01, 2021 02:14PM

So its kind of like beer goggles? LOL

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Re: Gen 4 Blue
Posted by: Tom Kirkman (Moderator)
Date: May 01, 2021 04:33PM

It may well disappear once mixed - I was simply mentioning that looking through a much, much thicker "layer" of epoxy will greatly enhance the slight blue tint, just as it usually does any slight amber tint.

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Re: Gen 4 Blue
Posted by: Lynn Behler (---.44.66.72.res-cmts.leh.ptd.net)
Date: May 01, 2021 07:11PM


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Re: Gen 4 Blue
Posted by: Daniel Kerr (---)
Date: May 10, 2021 04:08PM

Thanks all. I'm mainly wondering about yellowing on white thread and blanks. I just did a test wrap. It's super thick so we'll see about the bubble release factor. I'm gonna put it out in the sun for a good long time and see what happens.

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