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Reel seat prep
Posted by:
David Janes
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Date: January 28, 2021 07:32PM
I’ve come across a few things about maybe scuffing the inside of a reel seat for install. Is this something that is recommended or over kill? Also what about metal reel seats that have channels in them? Just curious because I’ve never done it. Re: Reel seat prep
Posted by:
John DeMartini
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Date: January 28, 2021 08:51PM
You can scuff the inside of the reel seat but it is not necessary.
The most important thing is to make sure the parts to be bonded are clean and oil free. Also it is important to have the parts fit snugly to keep the bond line as thin as possible. We all have our comfort zones and techniques when it comes to bonding parts, if you are ever in doubt refer to the instructions provided by the manufacturer of the adhesive and proceed with care.. Have fun Re: Reel seat prep
Posted by:
Aaron Petersen
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Date: January 29, 2021 08:04AM
I always make a few passes with the reamer and clean the scuffed portion. Doing this gives the glue more surface to adhere to and also works in a similar fashion to stippling. It is easier to grip something that is abrasive vs something that is smooth.
Just like when reaming anything, make sure the item you reamed is debris free prior to seating. Re: Reel seat prep
Posted by:
Michael Danek
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Date: January 29, 2021 08:11AM
I recently took apart a rod that I had built many years ago before hearing the recommendation on surface prep, and some of the epoxy was hardly bonded to the blank. Some could be taken off with the thumbnail. It had not failed, but if I had skimped on the amount used, I can see where it might have. For skeleton builds where there is little surface area, I think it can really be important. I have scotchbrite in a shotgun cleaning tip which I spin with a drill driver to scuff the insides of seats. I don't know that seats have mold release in them, but most plastic parts do, and scuffing the ID is a good precaution, in my opinion. I do it for metal and plastic seats. Re: Reel seat prep
Posted by:
Roger Templon
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Date: January 29, 2021 08:56AM
David
RodMaker magazine vol. 15 issue 6 has instructions for making a "inside the seat" scuffing tool. I used a short length of a wood dowel instead of the metal rod. I chuck the tool in a drill or my lathe and turn it. Works great! Rog Re: Reel seat prep
Posted by:
Tom Kirkman
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Date: January 29, 2021 10:12AM
Best mating surfaces for an adhesive bond are smooth, but de-glossed and clean.
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Posted by:
Phil Erickson
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Date: January 29, 2021 11:50AM
I have found some metal reel seats have oil or something similar inside, so I scuff and clean with DNA before assembly. Re: Reel seat prep
Posted by:
Tom Kirkman
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Date: January 29, 2021 12:01PM
Clean, scuff-scour then adhere. Always clean first.
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Posted by:
John DeMartini
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Date: January 29, 2021 12:31PM
Scuffing may have many meanings, my conception is to gouge or rough up a smooth surface,which in my opinion is not necessary for reel seat applications.
For reel seats my idea of scuffing is to just remove the gloss (if any) from the seat and the blank with light abrading. My process is and has never had any issues.; 1) Use a solvent DNA or Acetone,etc. to remove any oils or other contaminants. Don't want to scuff or rub in any oils or contaminants into the bonding surfaces. 2) "Scuff" just enough to remove any gloss. 400 grit or scotch bright. 3) Wipe areas with a clean rag to remove any loose residue. 4) Apply the epoxy per manufacturers recommendations.. As I said we all have our ways, this is what makes me feel comfortable, Have fun Re: Reel seat prep
Posted by:
Michael Danek
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Date: January 29, 2021 01:12PM
Thanks, Tom. I'm a believer. There is so much bad or mis-interpreted info out there on rod building it's good to get specific about issues like this. I have passed the Library link on to more than a few fellow builders. Re: Reel seat prep
Posted by:
Tom Kirkman
(Moderator)
Date: January 29, 2021 01:21PM
Right - surface prep is an area where there is indeed a correct answer.
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Posted by:
David Janes
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Date: January 29, 2021 06:32PM
Thank you everyone. Adding another step to my prep. Sorry, only registered users may post in this forum.
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