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Reaming EVA grips?
Posted by: Jon McDermott (70.99.111.---)
Date: December 06, 2020 05:51PM

Folks -

When assembling EVA grips on a rod, do you ream the grips out first?

I have a rear grip with about a 0.25 inch (6.35 mm) diameter center hole. The diameter of the rod where the grip will go is about 13.5 mm. I know some folks say no need to ream, the EVA will stretch and slide down the rod with epoxy as the lubricant, but that much?

To put it another way, when I place the un-reamed grip on the rod, it gets snug about 40" above where it needs to end up. Am I really going to be able to slide that grip down that far the rod even with the entire 40" coated in epoxy?

On the other hand, I've reamed EVA in the past with less than satisfying results. Hard to keep an on-center hole. Maybe that's just a lack of skill on my part.

Either way, looking for some wisdom before I start to assemble.

Cheers,
Jon

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Re: Reaming EVA grips?
Posted by: ben belote (---.zoominternet.net)
Date: December 06, 2020 06:24PM

Can you get a grip with a 3/8 or even 1/2 inch hole?

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Re: Reaming EVA grips?
Posted by: John DeMartini (---.inf6.spectrum.com)
Date: December 06, 2020 06:42PM

EVA can be drilled to a larger diameter. I would drill it until it gets to 6 to 8 inches of the butt, the EVA will stretch with the epoxy as a lube.



Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 12/06/2020 06:43PM by John DeMartini.

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Re: Reaming EVA grips?
Posted by: Joe Vanfossen (---.neo.res.rr.com)
Date: December 06, 2020 08:36PM

I ream my EVA grips. I don’t build a large number of rods, so the time spent on fitting each component is part of the enjoyment of the craft. I also like to dry fit and mock up the handle before gluing it all up.

EVA will easily stretch to about 1.5x it’s ID. If you have a rough time keeping the reaming straight, drilling them out with a pilot hole bit from Flex Coat can get you close enough for epoxy to help it slide in place.

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Re: Reaming EVA grips?
Posted by: Michael Ward (---)
Date: December 06, 2020 09:44PM

Are we taking solid EVA, or custom glued up grips? If custom ones then you definitely want to ream close to side.

If solid, check out the tips on using rubber cement as a lubricant to help them slide down

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Re: Reaming EVA grips?
Posted by: roger wilson (---)
Date: December 07, 2020 09:27AM

John,
I have never put an EVA grip on a rod where it needed to be stretched. I simply don't see the need to try to stretch something out, when it is very easy to ream out the grip to the desired size.

For reaming, I have always used circular files of various sizes to accomplish the task. But, the other type reamers like the dram reamers and sand paper based reamers also work very well.

To keep the hole centered, use a ream and slip technique.

When reaming, wear a pair of cloth or knit gloves. I buy the brown jersey gloves by the dozen and I also buy the white knitted gloves by the dozen. I almost always have a pair of gloved on my hands when working with sand paper and glue. If not those type of gloves, I wear nitrile gloves in my size. In my younger days, I never wore gloves and as a result had to do a lot of hand cleaning, and also doctoring up cuts and nicks that I received as a result of my foolishness.

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But, when reaming EVA with a glove on the hand that is holding the EVA and the drill in the other hand that is doing the reaming - I simply insert the reamer and go to work. The secret is to intermittently let the EVA grip slip a partial turn in my gloved hand as I am reaming.
The idea behind this is that if you are reaming and happen to be slightly off center, as the Eva grip slips around the full 360 degree circle or rotation, the reamer evens out the enlarged hole.

This is exactly the same principle as happens when I use my lathe to drill a perfectly centered hole in the end of a circular object being held in the jaws of the lathe chuck. Chuck the object to be drilled securely into the chuck of the lathe. Then, secure the drill bit to be used to drill the centered hole in the chuck that is in the tail stock of the lathe. Then, with the work spinning at the appropriate speed, advance the stationary drill bit into the spinning object. Since the object is spinning around the stationary drill bit, the hole that is being created has no choice but to be perfectly centered.

This is exactly the same thing that happens when one reams an EVA or other type grip with a spinning reamer. As the spinning reamer is going into the grip, the intermittent rotation of the grip being reamed will cause the enlarged hole to remain perfectly centered.

Best wishes.

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Re: Reaming EVA grips?
Posted by: John DeMartini (---)
Date: December 07, 2020 10:15AM

Roger

I agree stretching a grip is not recommended. I should have explained my statement better.

Unless you taper the EVA one end of the grip will always be stretched. One of the advantages of EVA is that it can stretch so snug fitting is more forgiving than cork or other hard grip. The rule for me is, if the grip is 8 inches long I ream the grip until it just slides to a point 8 inches from the butt. When epoxied in place the grip is snug on the fore end and slightly stretched at the butt end, Using this approach I don't think this amount of stretch is an issue so taper reaming the EVA for a snug fit is not worth the effort

I follow your method for sizing grips and I am also guilty of not using gloves, thanks for the links to the gloves.

John.

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Re: Reaming EVA grips?
Posted by: Dan Ertz (---)
Date: December 07, 2020 11:25AM

A caution about using gloves while working with rotating equipment.

If a glove gets caught on what is being turned your hand WILL be pulled into the lathe, etc.and SEVERE injuries will result.

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Re: Reaming EVA grips?
Posted by: Tom Kirkman (Moderator)
Date: December 07, 2020 11:32AM

If you apply your epoxy in the correct place, you'll be surprised just how much the EVA will stretch and how easily it'll slide into place. It is possible to ask too much of the grip, but

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Re: Reaming EVA grips?
Posted by: Jon McDermott (70.99.111.---)
Date: December 07, 2020 01:05PM

Thanks everyone for the advice, I appreciate it. I should have checked the FAQ, as Tom pointed out so kindly. Reaming it is, with care as suggested in this thread using a ream and slip technique and gloves.

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Re: Reaming EVA grips?
Posted by: Ed More (---)
Date: December 18, 2020 10:52AM

I have recently seen and tried a new technique. Golf club grip two sided tape, comes in 18 and 48 mm widths in a 36 yd roll, available on Amazon. You can do strips, or spiral wraps. As with epoxy, ream close to your required diameter, apply the tape, activate the the adhesive with mineral spirits and slide the grip into place. Clean up the rod and remove the tape above the grip. The advantage of the tape is the adhesive after activated is very slippery allowing you to easily slide the grip into place. The real advantage is in repairs where you are just replacing a butt grip.

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