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Rainshadow Immortal issues?
Posted by:
Rick Elrod
(184.63.184.---)
Date: April 26, 2017 08:50AM
I recently built 2 spinning rods on these blanks. One is the IMMP70L and the other the IMMS610MXF. On a recent kayaking trip on my local river I caught the IMMP70L on my backcast snapping it at the rodholder between the split grips. My fault but I felt that it broke very easily. It was an easy repair, given the location, so the repair was made and it is back in service. (also on this rod the finish is pealing like a bad clear coat would on a car)
Yesterday while fishing with my friend/guide on the Susquehanna River I broke the IMMS610MXF on a hookset while finesse fishing. (this was this rods maiden voyage) We jokingly laughed it off as I was just bragging on my new stick and was proud of it! lol (btw, fish and top of rod were landed) There is absolutely no reason this rod should have broke on what was a very modest hookset. Has anyone else had these problems? I'm sure that GETBIT/ Batson will warranty the rod but upon reading the warranty card and realizing that I'm on the hook for $30 shipping for a $75 blank I'm not sure its worth the hassle! Also, while I am aware that I can re use the guides I am out another $50 or so with regards to the seat/grip/hardware etc.. I am usually not one to complain. If I was I would have already made a stink about the "peeling" blank. Thanks, Rick Re: Rainshadow Immortal issues?
Posted by:
Tom Kirkman
(Moderator)
Date: April 26, 2017 12:21PM
The first thing you want to do with any new blank is flex it deeply. Do it correctly, of course, over its entire length without putting a sharp bend in any short area of the blank. This will generally reveal any defect or damage which may have occurred during the various shipping processes from maker to distributor to dealer to you.
Yes, it's tough to lose your handle components and time involved in making them, but it happens to nearly every builder at some point. ..................................................... Re: Rainshadow Immortal issues?
Posted by:
Nate Nelson
(107.77.85.---)
Date: April 26, 2017 12:43PM
RIck - would you be able to cut around the handle components and then bore them out so you can reuse? Likely couldn't get everything hit may be able to save the reelsear a a minimum. Re: Rainshadow Immortal issues?
Posted by:
roger wilson
(---.hsd1.mn.comcast.net)
Date: April 26, 2017 12:46PM
Nate,
In spite of your kind words, I have tried over the years to salvage reel seats and grips but have never been successful to my satisfaction. So, now, I no longer try. I slice off the guides and pitch the rest and move on. Be safe Re: Rainshadow Immortal issues?
Posted by:
Rick Elrod
(---.mycingular.net)
Date: April 26, 2017 12:54PM
Tom Kirkman Wrote:
------------------------------------------------------- > The first thing you want to do with any new blank > is flex it deeply. Do it correctly, of course, > over its entire length without putting a sharp > bend in any short area of the blank. This will > generally reveal any defect or damage which may > have occurred during the various shipping > processes from maker to distributor to dealer to > you. > > Yes, it's tough to lose your handle components and > time involved in making them, but it happens to > nearly every builder at some point. > > .................................................. > ...Tom, this makes good sense. I have another Immortal blank waiting to be built and will definitely give is a shakedown first Re: Rainshadow Immortal issues?
Posted by:
Lynn Behler
(---.97.252.156.res-cmts.leh.ptd.net)
Date: April 26, 2017 06:17PM
Rick, how far up from the butt did the IMMP70L break? Re: Rainshadow Immortal issues?
Posted by:
Rick Elrod
(184.63.184.---)
Date: April 26, 2017 10:44PM
Lynn, about 5 inches Re: Rainshadow Immortal issues?
Posted by:
David Baylor
(---.neo.res.rr.com)
Date: April 27, 2017 08:08AM
I know it's too late and of no consolation, but I do as Tom mentioned and flex a new blank deeply when I first get it, just to check for potential problems.
I can tell you that I'd be a little more than upset if something like what has been described, happened to me. I understand you caught the rod built on the popping blank during a back cast, but unless it suffered a sever impact at the point it broke, I would not expect a blank to break 5" from the butt? I also wouldn't be too understanding about the rod built on the IMMS610MXF breaking on a hook set. It's not like you really powder a fish on a hook set with spinning gear. I've built on 3 Immortal blanks, both from the casting blank line up. They are stout blanks. I did have a rod I built on an IMMC72MH blank break, but it broke under very dire circumstances. And I had fished the rod for nearly a full tournament season prior to its breaking. Stinks about having to eat the $30 dollar shipping. Hope things work out for you. Re: Rainshadow Immortal issues?
Posted by:
Geoff Staples
(---.wavecable.com)
Date: April 27, 2017 10:45AM
Hi Rick,
When you have a second I'd suggest giving our warranty department a call. I'll give them a heads up regarding your particular case. If you don't get through to someone ask for me and I'll get your details. Folks typically have good experiences dealing with us on warranty cases. We'll get you fishing again asap. 877-875-2381 -The Batson TEAM BatsonEnterprises.com Re: Rainshadow Immortal issues?
Posted by:
David Baylor
(---.neo.res.rr.com)
Date: April 27, 2017 03:45PM
Geoff's responses to threads on here is just one of the reasons Batson Enterprises products are tops on the lists of many builders, mine included.
I hope my earlier post didn't come off as being negative towards the Immortal line of blanks. If so, that was not my intention. I absolutely love the Immortal series and certainly won't shy away from them because of an unfortunate incident or two. I feel the Immortal series was worth their cost prior to the price reduction. Now it's just silly that you can get a blank of that caliber, for a more than reasonable cost. There are more Immortal builds in my future. Unless of course my next planned build on a blank from the Eternity2 line up has me falling in love all over again. Either way, I know I'm going to be a happy man. Re: Rainshadow Immortal issues?
Posted by:
Lynn Behler
(---.97.252.156.res-cmts.leh.ptd.net)
Date: April 27, 2017 09:51PM
I'm with David here, that's the last place I'd expect a blank would ever break. Re: Rainshadow Immortal issues?
Posted by:
Rick Elrod
(184.63.184.---)
Date: April 28, 2017 07:46AM
Geoff Staples Wrote:
------------------------------------------------------- > Hi Rick, > When you have a second I'd suggest giving our > warranty department a call. I'll give them a > heads up regarding your particular case. If you > don't get through to someone ask for me and I'll > get your details. Folks typically have good > experiences dealing with us on warranty cases. > We'll get you fishing again asap. > > 877-875-2381 Thanks Geoff, will do. Rick Elrod Re: Rainshadow Immortal issues?
Posted by:
Lance Schreckenbach
(---.lightspeed.hstntx.sbcglobal.net)
Date: April 28, 2017 10:45AM
Batson Enterprise is a good company and stand behind their products. Sometime there are production or design issues that will cause a certain model of blank to have failures. Many companies will try to recover cost and not actually fix the problem. From what I have seen they will correct the problem and they will take care of their customers if you deal directly with them. Re: Rainshadow Immortal issues?
Posted by:
Robert A. Guist
(---.dhcp.embarqhsd.net)
Date: April 28, 2017 11:22AM
Hello Rick.
Is your rod holder in the kayak metal or plastic? I heard of a guy who had a split grip rod in a metal rod holder and got a strike trolling and he had forgotten to loosen his drag, it snapped the rod right off at the top of the holder between the split grip, all he had left was the bottom 6"'s of his rod. I no longer use split grip rods in metal rod holders. Tight Wraps & Tighter Lines. Bob, New Bern, NC. Re: Rainshadow Immortal issues?
Posted by:
Rick Elrod
(184.63.184.---)
Date: April 28, 2017 01:17PM
Bob,
My rod holder is plastic. Thanks, Rick Elrod Re: Rainshadow Immortal issues?
Posted by:
Rick Elrod
(184.63.184.---)
Date: April 28, 2017 01:49PM
I would like to report that I just spoke with Geoff at Batson Enterprises and he went well above and beyond my expectations to make things right. I wish more companies backed they're product in this manner. I will certainly be building many more rods on Batson Enterprises blanks and would encourage any one else considering their products to be confident that if you should ever need support they are there.
Thanks again Geoff! Rick Elrod Re: Rainshadow Immortal issues?
Posted by:
David Baylor
(---.neo.res.rr.com)
Date: April 30, 2017 08:55AM
Rick, that is great to hear, and based on Geoff's responses to this and other threads concerning Batson products, is not surprsing at all.
You rock Geoff! A word you have used in your post has been banned from use. Please use a different word or contact the forum administrators.
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