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Double foot guides
Posted by:
Thomas C Kuzia
(32.216.23.---)
Date: June 18, 2016 11:27AM
I've done a lot of searching but can't find any info on the correct "orientation" of bigger double foot guides.
Some double foot guides have a single "foot" and a double" foot.Double foot meaning laying 2 pieces of flat metal along side each other and single foot meaning a single piece of flat metal. Does the double foot go toward or away from the tip top? I hope I explained this so you can understand what I'm talking about? Thanks,,, Tom Re: Double foot guides
Posted by:
Norman Miller
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Date: June 18, 2016 12:27PM
Traditionally the double brace is toward the reel. However, there has been a recent trend of putting the stripper guide in a reverse orientation, single brace towrd the reel, with the rest of the guides in the traditional orientation.
Norm Re: Double foot guides
Posted by:
Capt. Michael Harmon
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Date: June 18, 2016 12:53PM
X2 norm. Re: Double foot guides
Posted by:
Thomas C Kuzia
(32.216.23.---)
Date: June 18, 2016 05:57PM
Thank you!
I should have asked here first but it's an embarrassing question to have to ask! Thanks again,,, Tom Re: Double foot guides
Posted by:
Norman Miller
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Date: June 18, 2016 06:41PM
No problem, that's what this forum is all about.
Norm Re: Double foot guides
Posted by:
bill boettcher
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Date: June 18, 2016 06:55PM
The double brace is always to the reel --- That idea of turning the guide around is a FUJI thing with there UV guides
The double brace is supposed to be good to eliminate line tangles on the cast Do it how ever you want Bill - willierods.com Re: Double foot guides
Posted by:
Michael Danek
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Date: June 18, 2016 07:52PM
I have built Fujis both ways,and I both ways work well. Even with conventional two foot guides, I've never seen the line going wild enough on the cast to engage the double feet. All the line engages is the ring.
However, the angle of the ring is different on the Fuji RV guide depending on which way it is oriented, and as Bill says, the single leg is supposed to face toward the reel. If you are making casting rods, at some time try the Fuji setup. I love it, make all my casting rods that way now. The supposed "big deal" with the RV guide is the height, and I believe the RV equipped casting rods I've made have performed better than my others.others. With big double foot guides on spinning rods, I would stick with the double leg facing the reel. Just seems logical, and with spin there is a lot more line "action" on the cast. Re: Double foot guides
Posted by:
Norman Miller
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Date: June 18, 2016 07:56PM
If I remember this correctly the reverse orientation of the stripper guide was started by surf fishermen. Their reasoning was it reduced line chatter caused by the line hitting the double guide brace. Not sure this was the major reason or not, but this reverse orientation caught on with a number of surf fishermen and has stuck. At the time the brand of guide did not matter much, but when the low rider surf rod guides appeared the use of reverse strippet orientation became more common. Bcause of this Fuji was the first company to specifically design RV stripper guides that can be used in the reverse orientation to take advantage of the market. Fuji did not start this trend, they took advantage of it. I have no idea if the reverse stripper orientation has any functional benefits, but obviously some people do. I hope my recollection of reverse stripper orientation history is fairly accurate. If not I am sure others with better memories will chime in.
Norm Re: Double foot guides
Posted by:
bill boettcher
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Date: June 18, 2016 08:29PM
No
The double ring brace is to the reel Which is the double foot The single foot went to the TIP This was to stop ( marketing ) any line tangles on the ring There were plenty of vidioes on this Then Fuji rods were being made with the BUTT guide turned around ?? ONLY the butt guide Why bother with all this marketing if IT MAKES NO DIFFERENCE I would think you can put the guides ANY WAY YOU WANT - since it does not mater and they fish the same ???? Bill - willierods.com Re: Double foot guides
Posted by:
Donald Becker
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Date: June 19, 2016 03:07AM
Bill, I'm sure I will not be using the correct terms. Hopefully the following will make some sense.
Manufacturers have different names for the same thing. It regards how the ring is attached to the frame. The ring may be pressed into the metal groove. Epoxied into it. Or a combination of both. For surf rods, on the cast, when the shockleader knot strikes the ring, we would want the ring to be supported by the grooved metal ring part of the frame. In other words, the impact of the knot should drive the ring into the grove, rather than driving the ring out of the grove. Don Becker Re: Double foot guides
Posted by:
Norman Miller
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Date: June 19, 2016 09:38AM
Don - You are correct. The way the rings were 'swaged' into the frame of the guide was another reason why surf fisherman used the reverse orientation for their strippers. Maybe one of the reasons for double 'swagged' guides.
Norm Re: Double foot guides
Posted by:
Thomas C Kuzia
(32.216.23.---)
Date: June 19, 2016 09:54AM
Now I'm glad I asked cuz I'm getting an education here!
Tom Re: Double foot guides
Posted by:
Jim Ising
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Date: June 20, 2016 10:21AM
I hate to disagree with Bill but Fuji doesn't do things for "marketing". I am marketing and I can assure you they do things for function only. Re: Double foot guides
Posted by:
bill boettcher
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Date: June 20, 2016 10:30AM
But turning a guide around that was made to stop line tangle does not make sense to me So I figured maybe it makes no difference ??? I would think that the distance from the spool to the but could matter and like the ring size of the RV guides also matters Bill - willierods.com Sorry, only registered users may post in this forum.
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