By name this is a reverse guide. What, exactly, does that mean? Is the double foot installed in facing the tip? I've asked a couple of builders and they didn't really seem to know.

Thanks,
Doug

Yes.

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Thanks Tom!!!

The double legs face the tip. Although I've built them backwards and not sure there's a difference in performance.

RV's do seem to "buck the trend" and I have asked a lot of questions to Fuji engineers about the decision to do this. My best translation goes something like this:

A high frame guide in the past has had a large ring. The frame legs on a large ring connect to the outside of the ring frame so they are, logically, pretty far apart. But, as you increase frame height and make ring size smaller the legs connecting to the outside of the ring frame stay closer together because of the small ring. That narrower space creates line slap problems. Flaring the legs enough to eliminate the problem on a double foot guide becomes heavy and cumbersome. Solution: Use a single leg facing the reel and use the double legged "backside" to gain the strength needed in a double-foot model and maintain the tangle free feature of true "K" guides. Zero line slap, lighter weight, tangle free performance and a much smaller footprint.

Please, face the single leg toward the reel for maximum performance.

Thanks, Jim. But I still don't think the two rods I built the wrong way will get significantly better it I reverse the guide. It could be that the line we are using makes it a moot point. But I'll do as you say from now on. :-)

May be undetectable with lighter lines especially but you GOTTA FOLLOW THE RULES, MICHAEL! HAHAHAHAHA!!!

Seriuosly, it's a weird one. I see a little LC in there, a little KL-H in there and a little AT in there. It took me a while but it all makes sense to me now. The top draw in my opinion is the way the double leg/foot part "tucks" up under the slope of the ring (think how long the old LC had to be). Very short footprint and lighter overall weight with huge strength...pretty ingenious.

Jim - Wish these guides came in a stainless frames with alconite rings. Titanium frames are far too expensive for routine freshwater use. I use KR guides extensively but have never used the RV guide because of the cost and lack of matching with black guides.
Norm

Pro rate the cost of that guide for the expected life of the rod and it will almost be free. All the rest of the guides may be alconite (or cheaper) stainless steel. They will look OK together. I'm following the rules now that I know them, Jim. I was just a little slow in figuring them out. I love that guide, too.

Nope does not work for me! Never had trouble with the stainless frames so if pro rated for the life of the rod they are still less than titanium. Do not like the look of titanium mixed with black guides. There is no reason these guides could not be made with a stainless frame. Titanium frames are overkill for feashwater. In my opinion the weight difference does not justify the extra cost, which is double that of stainless. That's two sets of guides for the price of one. If you throw torzite into the mix you are talking more than three times the price. Know for a fact that you can not scrath an alconite guide with a hacksaw blade or a metal file more than hard enough to hold up to any kind of line you use.
Norm

I was suggesting one titanium guide (about $8) to use with bright stainless (about $2.50) guides, not titanium with black. Didn't throw torzite into the mix. Total guide cost about $23. Or less with concept O type L running guides.

Using L guides deletes the advantage of the KR concept. I prefer black to chrome. If Fuji made K series guides with concept O rings I would buy them. The reason I mentioned torzite is I think they are overkill for freshwater use, just like titanium frames. In fact they may even be overkill for light inshore fishing. I have used titanium guides and found them to be brittle and prone to breaking, another reason I like stainless. Just because they are more expensive does not neccesarily mean they function better. I am certain that Fuji would rather sell titanium guides than stainless guides. I would venture a guess that the majority of rods built using the KR concept microguides are for freshwater and light inshore fishing. Thus I see no valid reason why the RV micro stripper is made only with titanium frames, except for the price. You are welcome to your opinion, and I to mine.
Norm

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